California Voters Approve Gay-Marriage Ban

Red just seems to be rambling incoherently. When he gets back on topic I'll address his ludicrous assertions.

As for what you stated reasoning and as I pointed out and the founding fathers explicitly stated those rights are bestowed upon us by our creator. The government exists only to SECURE those rights.

And every society has periods where they move towards a more lecherous lifestyle and being more accepting of immoral activities. But in the end they do one of two things. Either they are destroyed or they recognize their mistake and come back to more conservative values. I won't give my country up for destitute without a fight.

Lastly, as far as your "sure if their behavior is harmful to others comment". That's patently false. What harm does polygamy bring to others? What harm does incest between consenting adults bring to others? But they are still expected not to engage in those behaviors aren't they? More specifically they can engage in those behaviors but they are not sanctioned by the state and they sure as heck aren't subsidized with tax payer money. Just like homosexuality.

The behavior need not be harmful to others directly but it simply needs to be detrimental and harmful to society. I've already pointed out several reasons homosexuality is harmful to society. I bet I can come up with more reasons why homosexuality is harmful to society than you can for polygamy or incest of consensual adults.

And I have pointed out how heterosexual over breeding is harmful to society...

Catholic bishop in Dominica: End anti-homosexuality laws
http://76crimes.com/2013/05/24/catholic-bishop-in-dominica-end-anti-homosexuality-laws/

Then they shouldn't receive marriage benefits. No argument here I don't believe in subsidies at all. But again you have NO legitimate argument as to why homosexuals SHOULD receive them.

How come you're not crying and kicking your feet for equality for polygamous or incestuous couples. Aren't you just as enraged that they're not getting their equal rights too? Or is that only an argument for homosexuals?

Because homosexuals and bisexuals have families too. Their families should not suffer because they have entered into another loving relationship just as divorced heterosexuals often remarry and still obtain benefits. That is because the benefits are to help raise their children they are not the to pay for the sex lube to procreate. I really am beginning to think you are stupid X. Your ideas are not only selfish and hateful but detrimental to society. Gays contribute to society just as much as bisexuals and straights if not more... So it is your idea to punish the 646,464 same-sex households? What kind of hateful jerk are you? What a world would this be like without men like Shakespeare and Michael Angelo? Gays are often artists, thinkers, philosophers and scientists. They often contribute much more to society that you care to give them credit. They along with bisexuals are also parents and heads of households. Those households have children in them, real children and they are not imaginary people you can or should be allowed to sweep under the rug. They are not bastards as you would like to fill the world with but loving, caring and nurturing households.

List of gay, lesbian or bisexual people
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_gay,_lesbian_or_bisexual_people

In the 2010 Census, same-sex couples were recorded in all fifty states as well as the District of Columbia. According to the revised estimates of same-sex couples, 646,464 households (0.6% of all US households) were headed by a same-sex couple.(2) The 2010 Census, the first to include “married” as an option for same-sex partners, counted 131,729 same-sex couples who identified as married, who were present in every state in the United States. Same-sex households were counted in higher regional concentrations along the East and West coasts, as well as the Southwestern region of the United States.

http://www.impactprogram.org/youth/how-many-lgbt-familes-are-there/

Your errant reasoning is not only hateful it is based upon faulty assumptions. Time and again you are shown reason and your homophobic hate wins out. I can only surmise you are simply a moron. In the words of Jesus, a hypocrite, remember love and peace with thy neighbor? I see no love in you at all. YOU are the unworthy one.

Polygamous couples? I'd like to see that family photo.

Polygamous couples is that not the oxymoron of the day...

Preventing overpopulation is hardly a convincing reason for promoting gay marriage.

What I can't understand is why civil unions would not be acceptable, especially since they would afford similar rights to widow/widower couples, elderly sister couples, etc. It would definitely take my dog out of the fight.

These subsidies encourage people to enter into marriages and these marriages often lead to procreation so you are now contradicting yourself.

Promoting overpopulation is hardly a reason to deny gay marriage and equality.

You had to wait until I went into work to post this nonsense didn't you? How do you not see the flaws in that drivel that you just posted?

There are so many logical fallacies, incorrect statements and epic logic fails in that post I can't respond to it before I have to be in work.

And notice folks how he refuses to acknowledge that equality only matters when he agrees with the behavior.

Stupid Siri and her auto correct

Well whatever those freaks want to call themselves. Polygamous family units? I don't know lol

I'll be happy to explain why civil unions are detrimental as well later this evening. It is an economically sound reason.

Here is the answer. Often bisexuals divorce who have families. If one partner, say the mother marries another woman, because it is only a "civil union" and the father marries a woman and he is "married" the marriage may take precedent over simply a civil union. So the father is awarded custody even though he was the abuser in the first place. So he goes out and gets a rent a wife just so he can take the kids... And because he is "married" he has an unfair advantage. Hope that clears things up.

Like all your other reasoning? No thanks...

King David and Solomon were polygamists, were they freaks too?

It's only the designation of marriage that pops my cork. It applies the stamp of normality to a lifestyle fraught with difficulty, a poor message to send to young people struggling with identity.

Harm is for God to judge.

Correctly worded civil unions would prevent that. But there will always be abuses.