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Shadow X
 
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Reply Tue 21 May, 2013 06:05 pm
@reasoning logic,
I don't disagree that the behavior is sociopathic... it is certainly criminal, antisocial and lacks a moral responsibility.

But while ALL pedophilia is sociopathic... not all sociopathic behavior is pedophilia and yet you're trying to make this a "sociopathic" thing rather than focus on the pedophilia behavior.
RexRed
 
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Reply Tue 21 May, 2013 06:12 pm
@Shadow X,
If society abused heterosexuals the way it abuses gays your facts would disappear and that is something you cannot refute with your statistics.

Anyone abused by society will not necessarily respond predictably.

And you know what, I don't give **** if you like my gay behavior or not.

You believe in the Bible, that speaks volumes...
reasoning logic
 
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Reply Tue 21 May, 2013 06:34 pm
@Shadow X,
Quote:
I don't disagree that the behavior is sociopathic... it is certainly criminal, antisocial and lacks a moral responsibility.

But while ALL pedophilia is sociopathic... not all sociopathic behavior is pedophilia and yet you're trying to make this a "sociopathic" thing rather than focus on the pedophilia behavior.


Are you suggesting that we may have stumbled upon common ground?

Let me reword what you last said in the context that you have been arguing for all along.

Quote:
I don't disagree that the behavior is sociopathic... it is certainly criminal, antisocial and lacks a moral responsibility.

But while most pedophiles are Christians... not all Christian behavior is sociopathic and yet you're trying to make this a "sociopathic" thing rather than focus on the Christian behavior.
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Tue 21 May, 2013 06:36 pm
@RexRed,
Yea, his thinking is two thousand years old, and never to arise out of ignorance.
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RexRed
 
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Reply Tue 21 May, 2013 06:56 pm
I keep reading the file Shadow X posted and I cannot find a single mention of homosexuals in the entire report. I even searched the report for "homo" and came up with nothing. http://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/saycrle.pdf
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Tue 21 May, 2013 07:03 pm
I believe ShadowX missed a passage from the bible, because, he says, he's not a Jew.
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"For I testify to everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: If anyone adds to these things, God will add to him the plagues that are written in this book; and if anyone takes away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part from the Book of Life, from the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book" (Revelation 22:18-19).
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RexRed
 
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Reply Tue 21 May, 2013 07:39 pm
Julie (LAPD) and Randi: "We will be getting married as soon as it's legal in California. We marched in the Long Beach Gay Pride Parade on Sunday, May 19th, 2013."
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Smile
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RexRed
 
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Reply Tue 21 May, 2013 07:44 pm
Obama to male grads: 'Be the best husband to your wife, or your boyfriend, or your partner'
http://www.gaystarnews.com/article/obama-male-grads-be-best-husband-your-wife-or-your-boyfriend-or-your-partner200513
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Shadow X
 
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Reply Tue 21 May, 2013 07:53 pm
@reasoning logic,
No again this argument is patently false. There's nothing to suggest that pedophilia is any greater %-wise in christianity than in any other religion or in atheists. Again... you will have more christians in the usa that are pedophiles simply because there are many more christians than any other group of people. But the issue is... again... put 100 christians in a room and put 100 atheists in a room and you will not have any material difference in how many pedophiles are in each group. Whereas when considering homosexuals to pedophilia there is a very material difference in a room of 100 homosexuals as opposed to 100 heterosexuals.
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Shadow X
 
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Reply Tue 21 May, 2013 07:55 pm
@RexRed,
Maybe you weren't paying attention or didn't read the post earlier:

First let me give you the source.
http://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/saycrle.pdf

~27% of victims of pedophilia are males.
~98% of perpetrators of pedophilia are males.

That means that of the 27% of victims of pedophilia are males and 98% of those are molested by men. Let's say there are 1000 victims of pedophilia. 270 of those are males. of those 270 ... 265 of those are victims of men.

So out of the total population of child molestors, homosexuals represent 26.5% of the child molestors. Now why in the **** does <1% of the total population represent 26.5% of the total pedophiles?

That is the single biggest issue that I have with homosexuals. They are VASTLY overrepresented in regards to pedophilia. 2600% more than what they represent in the total population... that's a problem.
ehBeth
 
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Reply Tue 21 May, 2013 08:13 pm
@Shadow X,
You continue to assume that men who abuse boys are homosexual.

You have presented no evidence of that.
Shadow X
 
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Reply Tue 21 May, 2013 08:15 pm
@ehBeth,
Uhh no ehBeth. It is a known fact that a male who wants to have sex with another male is homosexual.

You are making the claim that a male that wants to have sex with a male that has not reached puberty is some kind of weird third sexuality and can't be considered homosexual. It is incumbent upon YOU to provide proof of that.

You can't.
ehBeth
 
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Reply Tue 21 May, 2013 08:17 pm
@Shadow X,
You don't understand paedophilia.

At all.

You have presented NO evidence than men who abuse boys are homosexual.

None.

It is your position to defend.
Shadow X
 
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Reply Tue 21 May, 2013 08:19 pm
@ehBeth,
That's absurd. You can't just claim that they're not homosexual because it doesn't benefit your position.

Provide evidence that a male who wants ot have sex with a male who has not reached puberty.. A> has no interest in adult partners and B> does not care whether or not his victims are male or female.

You can't. I CAN show that a male who wants to have sex with another male is the very definition of homosexual.
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Tue 21 May, 2013 08:23 pm
@Shadow X,
"Victims?" Wow, you do arrive at conclusions about homosexuality, but can't seem to comprehend the "victims" of heterosexuals.

FIGURES.
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RexRed
 
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Reply Tue 21 May, 2013 08:42 pm
@Shadow X,
You seem oblivious to the fact to that 80% of the population is bisexual. So these pedophiles are not necessarily homosexual but could be bisexual males too. The same bisexuals who would just as soon molest a female also... You have proven nothing other than you are part of the problem by your obsessive homophobia and hateful insinuations. So the actual perpetrators are not necessarily gay but more likely bi... I am not saying some gays can't be pedophiles but umm so can bisexuals...

As bisexuals account for the victimization of females also... There in nothing inherently pedophile about homosexuals.

There is no more risk of pedophilia by a homosexual male than there is for a bisexual male.

Stupid, you think only gays have homosexual sex... think again...

Now let's address your inherent bias and general scum-baggery......
Shadow X
 
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Reply Tue 21 May, 2013 08:49 pm
@RexRed,
I stopped reading after the moronic 80% of the population is bisexual comment lol

Regardless.. I don't care if you want to call them "homosexuals" or simply those who engage in homosexuality. Same thing as far as this conversation is concered.
ehBeth
 
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Reply Tue 21 May, 2013 08:56 pm
@Shadow X,
Quote:
95% of known Pedophiles are heterosexual


Quote:
Offenders report that when they touch a child, most (60%) of the victims are boys.


Quote:
Child molesters are generally married men, of any age, who are primarily drawn to their own children and step-children.


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Both Pedophiles and child molesters are primarily heterosexual males.


http://www.crisisconnectioninc.org/sexualassault/pedophilia_and_molestation.htm

more at

http://www.focus.psychiatryonline.org/cgi/content/abstract/7/4/522
ehBeth
 
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Reply Tue 21 May, 2013 08:56 pm
@Shadow X,
Shadow X wrote:
I CAN show that a male who wants to have sex with another male is the very definition of homosexual.


what do you think that has to do with paedophilia?
ehBeth
 
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Reply Tue 21 May, 2013 08:59 pm
@Shadow X,
Shadow X wrote:
Thomas did not use the same word for God that is used in the rest of the gospel. Thomas uses the word that is defined as a vice regent or representative of God... something which Jesus did claim.


were you there?
 

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