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California Voters Approve Gay-Marriage Ban

 
 
RexRed
 
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Reply Sun 8 Apr, 2012 12:36 pm
The Best Case for the Bible Not Condemning Homosexuality

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/john-shore/the-best-case-for-the-bible-not-condemning-homosexuality_b_1396345.html?utm_source=Alert-blogger&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Email+Notifications
RexRed
 
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Reply Sun 8 Apr, 2012 12:54 pm
A Young Gay Catholic Stands Up to Cardinal Dolan

http://www.advocate.com/News/Daily_News/2012/04/07/A_Young_Gay_Catholic_Stands_Up_to_Cardinal_Dolan/
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RexRed
 
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Reply Sun 8 Apr, 2012 07:50 pm
Ohio AG Gives Nod to Gay Marriage Ban Repeal Initiative

http://www.care2.com/causes/ohio-ag-gives-nod-to-gay-marriage-ban-repeal-initiative.html
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RexRed
 
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Reply Sun 8 Apr, 2012 07:59 pm
Campaign Launched to Kill Gays in Liberia

http://www.care2.com/causes/campaign-launched-to-kill-gays-in-liberia.html
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hingehead
 
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Reply Wed 11 Apr, 2012 05:38 pm
http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/429401_10150582789416471_585886470_9377773_971178871_n.jpg
RexRed
 
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Reply Thu 12 Apr, 2012 11:22 pm
London bans 'gay cure' ads from buses

http://worldnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/04/12/11168034-london-bans-gay-cure-ads-from-buses?lite
spendius
 
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Reply Fri 13 Apr, 2012 03:56 am
@RexRed,
Fancy being "intolerant of intolerance" and banning adverts which are not illegal. Good old Boris. What a nitwit that guy is.
RexRed
 
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Reply Fri 13 Apr, 2012 01:25 pm
@spendius,
spendius wrote:

Fancy being "intolerant of intolerance" and banning adverts which are not illegal. Good old Boris. What a nitwit that guy is.


The problem is the hate ads are illegal.They are illegal because they are hate motivated towards a legitimate demographic of society. This is what HATE ADS means...

Some humans become consumed with hate and instead of just living their own lives peaceably and serenely, never hurting a fly, they take it upon themselves to try and live the lives of others, they are in your face megalomaniacs. They take a sign that says, 'please respect me' and switch it into a sign that says, 'please hate them'.

What defines a bully? A bully is at root, a person who has not learned that it is socially improper to try and force unvetted and socially unorthodox opinions upon others as science. i.e. your spouse (they fight all the time) They think they can make decisions for each other that are not theirs ultimately to make. We think it is our right to tell another person when to put their coat and hat on and if they should take an umbrella. The truth is some people prefer being a little cold and getting rained upon a bit. Some people are just different.

Generally the rules of the road are that all people deserve the same space and liberty to live their lives as they see fit. If we got along we would not ever have strife. So to begin to lay unreasonable and hateful restrictions upon certain demographics of society seems undemocratic. To try and justify fanciful religious edicts from invisible gods seems underhanded and disingenuous at best.

Democracy is a system of social boundaries and when speech becomes superstitiously and unjustifiably hateful then society has a right to ask that this speech be reserved to the speakers own pulpit and not be allowed to blast or drowned out out the real message of unity and social wholeness through diversity. A government is supposed to govern and hold cohesiveness and solidarity of country over stagnant exaggerated legalisms and far fetched religious tenants. We have freedom of religion, that means you can believe what ever x'd up stuff you can think up, or be led to believe, but that does not give you the right to impose that belief upon another person. Gays consent to their mutual marriage they do not impose gay marriage upon others. That is the fundamental difference.

The anti gay movement want to impose restrictions on gay marriage. They want to impose their ideas upon gays. They want to label us and the problem is they are probably gay too but they just won't admit it. Or they find it lucrative to remain opposed. The problem also is that to define gay is a problem. Women are gay too in their own way. Some gay people like lots of sex, some prefer only occasional sex with a gay spouse. Some heterosexuals like lots of sex, and some heterosexuals like only sex with a heterosexual spouse.

Gay is a spectrum, a gradient of human sexuality, a rainbow and color map of infinite variety of expression. Each color is a different type of human. Sexuality is as diverse, as the the different birds. You have birds that fly in formation, birds that are solitary and all of the birds in the midst.

You cannot tell a bird to not be what it is. The synergy of nature depends upon this diversity. You cannot tell a seed to not grow what it is. You cannot tell a carnation to bloom into a rose.

Hate ads are hate ads, society should detect and see them for what they are and not support them on the thoroughfares of collective consciousness.
RexRed
 
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Reply Fri 13 Apr, 2012 01:45 pm
5 Countries That Do It Better: How Sexual Prudery Makes America a Less Healthy and Happy Place

http://www.alternet.org/sex/154970/5_countries_that_do_it_better:_how_sexual_prudery_makes_america_a_less_healthy_and_happy_place/
RexRed
 
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Reply Fri 13 Apr, 2012 03:17 pm
NOM Launches Global Anti-Gay Campaign Against Starbucks

http://www.edgeboston.com/news/local/news/131897/nom_launches_global_anti-gay_campaign_against_starbucks

Comment: NOM trying to tell others how to live their lives, and now, what coffee to drink. I plan to head into town to Starbucks sometime this week and buy a pound of coffee in support. Smile
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spendius
 
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Reply Fri 13 Apr, 2012 03:22 pm
@RexRed,
I don't think it was a hate ad at all. I think it was censorship for cynical political reasons.

I would imagine that some homosexuals would prefer not to be. Is that not true?

If it is the ad was to help them. The bus company had agreed to the ad after due consideration. And there had been ads to the opposite effect.
izzythepush
 
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Reply Sat 14 Apr, 2012 02:21 am
@spendius,
spendius wrote:

I don't think it was a hate ad at all. I think it was censorship for cynical political reasons.


I think Boris' decision to pull the ads had more to do with the mayoral election than anything else.

Personally I wish they'd ban all religious advertising including that of the atheists. Last time I was in London, the tube was plastered with stuff for Alain de Botton's latest opus.
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Ionus
 
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Reply Mon 16 Apr, 2012 05:08 pm
@RexRed,
Why are homosexuals demanding marriage ? Cant they get their own institution ? I am more than happy for them to have all legal rights of a married couple . In the world of politics, you dont force people to do anything , you get their co-operation . The majority of homosexuals dont want marriage . The majority of heterosexuals dont want homosexual marriage . What is the point in using the "nice" card to get people to compete as to who is the most liberal ? Obviously anyone who opposes homosexual marriage must be homophobic , right ?

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Many straight people are pervs too and hump like mad
And I have a strong dislike of them too . One should not use sex, food, money or a career to avoid looking in the mirror .

Take a lesson from nature . Homosexuality is a dead end . No marriage will fix that .
spendius
 
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Reply Mon 16 Apr, 2012 05:14 pm
@Ionus,
The question has been asked on here, Io, about the outcome of the few thousand homosexual "marriages" that California allowed before a free vote put an end to them.

Where are they now? How is it working out?

No answers have been forthcoming and the outcome is the only thing that matters.
Ionus
 
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Reply Mon 16 Apr, 2012 05:18 pm
@RexRed,
Paul was the only Bible author who could be considered anti-homosexual, and he WAS a homosexual . The concept of homosexual marriage only exists now because of complex property and custody rights . Nothing we have now stops two people from entering a loving relationship . It is when that relationship ends that the problems begin .

If homosexuals want to live in denial of the true nature of their existence, then fine, but do not expect everyone to hand over traditions existing since the dawn of time because they want to be "in the face" of heterosexuals .
Ionus
 
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Reply Mon 16 Apr, 2012 05:21 pm
@hingehead,
You need to talk to young male homosexuals who actively want children to molest . They talk about it openly at conventions, and even offer stretching devices for sale . Pull your head out and look with objectivity . The matter is more complex than an attempt to be witty .
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Ionus
 
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Reply Mon 16 Apr, 2012 05:24 pm
@RexRed,
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How Sexual Prudery Makes America a Less Healthy and Happy Place
I have to worry whenever I hear attacks on sexual prudence . The whole sexual attraction thing is discriminatory by its very nature . Are we to attack people who say we should eat less, or follow your advice to its logical conclusion and say everyone should eat everything they see ?
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Ionus
 
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Reply Mon 16 Apr, 2012 05:28 pm
@spendius,
They were never married . International law recognises each NATION"S marriages . That will be thrown up in the air if one country has homosexual marriage and the world does not . It could result in a heterosexual couple being charged under one nation's law's because they were married in another country that does not have its marriages recognised . California was simply a state that granted legal recognition to homosexual couples . Calling it marriage was a mistake .
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reasoning logic
 
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Reply Mon 16 Apr, 2012 05:32 pm
@Ionus,
Quote:
Take a lesson from nature . Homosexuality is a dead end . No marriage will fix that .


You seem to be dead against it and I was at one time myself because I was told that it was wrong.

I may not be attracted to the same sex but I still think that gay people should have every right that I do even if it is adoption and just like the rest of us, if we abuse children we pay the price.

Ionus
 
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Reply Mon 16 Apr, 2012 05:48 pm
@reasoning logic,
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You seem to be dead against it
I want full legal rights to homosexual couples . They can call it anything except marriage .

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gay people should have every right that I do even if it is adoption
The current policy on adoption is based on the state not having the balls to run orphanages . More trauma and premature sexual experiences were probably born out of orphanages than could ever be committed by the current system . There was a case where a foster child went up to her new Dad (how many parents do foster kids average, I wonder?) and said " I like you . I will give you a free sucky fucky ." She was four years old and had only known heterosexual foster parents . But make no mistake about it....the chances of finding a homosexual who wants to adopt a child for a sexual plaything are far greater than with heterosexuals .

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if we abuse children we pay the price.
That shows an almost total lack of caring for the child . The law can only act after the crime when the damage is done .
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