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California Voters Approve Gay-Marriage Ban

 
 
RexRed
 
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Reply Thu 8 Mar, 2012 01:39 pm
@Foxfyre,
Foxfyre wrote:

Did you have something specific in mind there Farmerman or are you speaking in broad undefinable generalities that you can't support? Or is it disingenuous to define what we believe to be right and what we believe to be wrong? I suppose liberals are different when they do that? If so, could you explain that please?


Yes, I do... How about Virginia conservatives wanting to force women who have been raped to undergo unnecessary vaginal probes and religiously motivated lectures on how they should keep a rapists fetus in their body for 9 months... How is that by any stretch of "undefinable generalities" small and un-intrusive government?
RexRed
 
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Reply Thu 8 Mar, 2012 02:55 pm
Wrongful death suit filed over jail death

http://www.pressherald.com/news/wrongful-death-suit-filed-over-jail-death_2011-01-06.html

Paul "Victor" Galambos was my ex ex boyfriend... Victor had so many problems but I still loved him and I miss him very much. By the time this incident happened Victor and I had been broken up a few months but we were still friends. He visited me at least once a week but his life had gotten too chaotic for me to go along with.

When Victor would play the guitar for me it would compel me to just break down crying it was so beautiful. I have heard many thousands of people play guitar and only a very few in my lifetime have ever had that impact on me.

Victor without his meds would become loopy and unintelligible. It was a very frustrating time in my life. He started doing hard drugs and I could no longer trust that there were not new diseases. I will not follow that path in my life.

When I first met Victor we were both tested together at the STD clinic and we had to wait nearly a month for those results to come in before we could be intimate. Victor's quest for medications that would stabilize his mind led to many rocky roads for us. He would have to have been denied all medications for this to have happened.

After Victor and I parted ways I met Miguel. Miguel changed my life and we had love and his family. Only so the State of Maine could deny us marriage equality. I still love Miguel and at this point he is my hope for happiness.

Looking back, I was close friends with Charlie Howard too who was murdered in Bangor Maine for being effeminate and gay.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charlie_Howard_(murder_victim)

I don't think I have mourned for Charlie like I should have. Some things are just too painful to think about so we lock them away in our subconscious. I can still see the twilight coming on and me walking by Charlie like it was yesterday. How was I to know what was going to happen? I saw Charlie Howard about an hour before he was murdered. My boyfriend Allen, at the time, asked me to not hang around with Charlie. His reason was that Charlie was to much of a swish. I loved Allen very much. So instead of me being there for Charlie I wimped out on him. It was dusk and I saw Charlie hanging around the town square and simply walked right by and went home to wait for my boyfriend to come home. The next day Charlie was gone.

Tell me, should this be the typical life of a gay person? When you think fondly back on the good old days what do you think of? Why have I been so close to such tragedy and hate? What doesn't kill us, haunts us. Victor's family are hurting so bad I can't go there either.

I just wish they knew the intimate and loving side I knew of Victor. I wish they had seen the handwritten letters Victor left with me and the song we wrote together. They have never seen the photos I took of Victor when Victor was in the prime of his life when we first met, he was fit and trim and his eyes, clear and beautiful.

Something I will keep with me as long as I live. He just wanted to be loved. Some things are too painful to face.

I do love Miguel now, not a day goes by that I do not think of him. I will make some sense and purpose of this life if it is the last thing I do.
RexRed
 
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Reply Thu 8 Mar, 2012 03:55 pm
Paul Victor Galambos

http://i582.photobucket.com/albums/ss264/RexRed/PaulVictorGalambos.jpg

Comment: His eyes were so blue... He seemed so happy. I loved him very much. Rest in peace brother.

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izzythepush
 
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Reply Fri 9 Mar, 2012 02:40 am
@RexRed,
I'm sorry to hear that Rex. It's true though, most straight people don't know how hard it can be for gays. I don't. Hope things get better both personally and politically.
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spendius
 
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Reply Fri 9 Mar, 2012 04:56 am
@RexRed,
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How is that by any stretch of "undefinable generalities" small and un-intrusive government?


To those who think the fetus is life it would be the same as intrusive governments trying to prevent murder. If the fetus is not life what is the point at which it becomes so?

"For by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified."

If the law justifies life you have Hitler exonerated. Or human sacrifice.

It is nothing to do with the fetus how it came about. Or the USSC.

And, as things stand, the Virginian conservatives can be ignored.

So what point are you making?

Have you even proved that the rape occured?
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farmerman
 
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Reply Fri 9 Mar, 2012 05:06 am
@RexRed,
touching testament to someone you loved . Cant addanything but send condolences .
Ive felt the same way about women in my life whose presences were later replaced . However, remembering only the good times in all those early relationships is what keeps em precious.
My wife understands that I still remember my first wife even today and even though we split-up very badly. Wisely though, my wife doesnt consent to visiting places that were significant to my first marriage and Im glad she permits me the space for a caual reminisce but doesnt let me dwell on it too long.
Fortunatley we dont get our lives stuck in one time.
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RexRed
 
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Reply Fri 9 Mar, 2012 11:28 am
Sometimes I think I talk/write too much. But on the other hand I would feel terrible if I did not let people know some of these issues in my life. I gotta go out for a bit to fix a computer, I feel like writing a huge dissertation. Back later thanks for the heart felt replies freinds.

I will soon address the absurd hyperbole about how Spendious (and Rush Limbaugh) thinks all women like being raped. (at least that is what it seems he is saying.)
RexRed
 
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Reply Thu 15 Mar, 2012 06:51 am
Lawsuit: US evangelist inspired deadly hate against Uganda gays

http://worldnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/03/15/10695690-lawsuit-us-evangelist-inspired-deadly-hate-against-uganda-gays


(our taxes go to pay for these churches to spread hate?)
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RexRed
 
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Reply Fri 16 Mar, 2012 11:52 am
Now for the rest of the story. America the Beautiful was written by Katherine Bates. She took a trip across the United States by train. After seeing all the scenery she wrote the poem at the top of Pikes Peak.
This beloved song was written by a lesbian and her lover who loved our country and verbalized, that beauty in a way no one ever has before or since.
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Ionus
 
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Reply Mon 19 Mar, 2012 02:01 am
I am aware of an airline steward who put his sperm into chocolates and give them to the young boys on his flights. He figured the more talent out there for him, the better off he was and this would give them the taste that would change them forever. I am also aware of a gentle man who was beaten to death by low lifes for being gentle and homosexual.

There is nothing about either homosexuality or heterosexuality that produces superior people. Superior people control their sexuality, they use it...it doesnt use them.

Still, nature's opinion is absolute. The same sex can hump itself all it likes, it will never reproduce.
spendius
 
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Reply Mon 19 Mar, 2012 04:08 am
@RexRed,
Quote:
I will soon address the absurd hyperbole about how Spendious (and Rush Limbaugh) thinks all women like being raped. (at least that is what it seems he is saying.)


If you want my respect you'll knock off smears of that nature.

And what some nut evangelist says has nothing to do with me. I've been discussing Prop 8 being reversed by a judge. Had Prop 8 been defeated and a judge had reversed that I would have objected just the same.
RexRed
 
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Reply Wed 28 Mar, 2012 09:59 pm
Why fit in when you were born to stand out?
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RexRed
 
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Reply Sat 7 Apr, 2012 10:11 pm
Study examines the roots of homophobia

http://www.usatoday.com/news/health/story/2012-04-03/homophobia-psychology/54082202/1
Philippos
 
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Reply Sat 7 Apr, 2012 10:13 pm
@RexRed,
People are just people.
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MontereyJack
 
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Reply Sun 8 Apr, 2012 12:01 am
Rights are rights, Spendius, you don't vote on them.
spendius
 
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Reply Sun 8 Apr, 2012 02:53 am
@MontereyJack,
Dream on Jack.
MontereyJack
 
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Reply Sun 8 Apr, 2012 03:04 am
@spendius,
Rights are not optional. You can't vote one out. Part of the definition, spendius.
spendius
 
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Reply Sun 8 Apr, 2012 06:08 am
@MontereyJack,
For a hermit in a mountain cave maybe.
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RexRed
 
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Reply Sun 8 Apr, 2012 12:06 pm
@spendius,
spendius wrote:

Quote:
I will soon address the absurd hyperbole about how Spendious (and Rush Limbaugh) thinks all women like being raped. (at least that is what it seems he is saying.)


If you want my respect you'll knock off smears of that nature.

And what some nut evangelist says has nothing to do with me. I've been discussing Prop 8 being reversed by a judge. Had Prop 8 been defeated and a judge had reversed that I would have objected just the same.


Perhaps I have painted you with too wide a brush, when the shoe fits wear it but maybe one size does not fit all in this case. I am sorry Spendi.

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RexRed
 
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Reply Sun 8 Apr, 2012 12:10 pm
@Ionus,
Ionus wrote:

I am aware of an airline steward who put his sperm into chocolates and give them to the young boys on his flights. He figured the more talent out there for him, the better off he was and this would give them the taste that would change them forever. I am also aware of a gentle man who was beaten to death by low lifes for being gentle and homosexual.

There is nothing about either homosexuality or heterosexuality that produces superior people. Superior people control their sexuality, they use it...it doesnt use them.

Still, nature's opinion is absolute. The same sex can hump itself all it likes, it will never reproduce.


Many straight people are pervs too and hump like mad and never reproduce and your point is? Maybe reproduction or sexual preference is not the point but love without hypocrisy and genuine civility is the point?
 

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