Boy Scouts/Discrimination

No you didn't

You made an idiotic claim about the marital status of child molesters that apparently had no source other than your own prejudice.

I haven't seen where you posted any evidence about whether the boy scout leaders molesting kids were married or not.

Good Christian married men have some nasty habits-- you do remember Ted Haggard, right?

just because something is in a formal study done to the standards
of such studies does not mean that either the conclusions or facts
are guarantee to be correct and that information outside such
sources are not in fact automatically of lesser worth.

You don't seem to realize, Bill, that that most predators are actually heterosexual males, even those who prey on children of the same gender as them.

. . . the ludicrous nature of your claim is that heterosexual men
are more likely to abuse male children

And the Boy Scouts finally had to implement their no gay scoutleaders policy as the incidents of sexual misconduct by heterosexual family men was virtually nil.

I'm curious about your thoughts on littlek's statistics, especially the line she highlighted.

. Working with the boy scouts at the local and district levels, including serving on the board, hubby saw all the data re the various reported incidents, lawsuits, etc. etc. when the Scouts were having all their troubles

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. Working with the boy scouts at the local and district levels, including serving on the board, hubby saw all the data re the various reported incidents, lawsuits, etc. etc. when the Scouts were having all their troubles

So we are to understand that your husband was a married heterosexual male who worked with the Boy Scouts?

Hmmmm.

So tell me ebrown, why is it that you seem so eager to protect and defend pedophiles and/or promote policies that make it much easier for them to get at the kids? Hmmmmm?

The categorical denial that "heterosexual married men" ever abuse kids sounds kind of suspicious.

I didn't make a categorical denial that 'heterosexual married men" ever abuse kids.

More important to the issue of scout leaders are lines that she didn't highlight:

i.e. Eighty-eight percent had a prior relationship with their victims;
and
Three out of four prisoners who victimized a child reported the crime took place in their own home or in the victim's home

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I didn't make a categorical denial that 'heterosexual married men" ever abuse kids.

You did, however, state (and this is a categorical statement), that, and i quote: "And the Boy Scouts finally had to implement their no gay scoutleaders policy as the incidents of sexual misconduct by heterosexual family men was virtually nil." Which is a statement for which you did not provide any evidence. When people have challenged you on it, you have insisted that they prove you wrong. As you have not proven your claim, no one here is obliged to make any attempt to disprove the claim.

As usual, Dear, you're stumbling badly, and attempting to imply that you've proven a point which you have not proven, and that others are obliged to disprove your claim. That is typical of your work here.

Foxfyre wrote:

More important to the issue of scout leaders are lines that she didn't highlight:

i.e. Eighty-eight percent had a prior relationship with their victims;
and
Three out of four prisoners who victimized a child reported the crime took place in their own home or in the victim's home

I think that's a fair objection.

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About the Boy Scouts' "no-gays" policy: Do the Girl Scouts have a corresponding "no-lesbians" policy? What level of abuse, if any, do they observe?

The biggest misunderstanding many people have is that pedophilia and homosexuality are one and the same. But to say that all homosexuals are pedophiles, or that all pedophiles are homosexual, is like comparing apples to rat poison. "They certainly are two distinct things," says James Hord, a psychologist in Panama City, Fla., who specializes in treating sexually abused children.

Hord explains that while some pedophiles may prefer boys over girls, or vice versa, it's not so much about gender as it is about age. For homosexuals, Hord says, sexual preference is "simply not linked to the age." If a man, for instance, is attracted to other adult males, he is a homosexual. A man who is sexually attracted to male children is not considered a homosexual: He is a pedophile.
Insecurity at Heart of Pedophilia

As with all things sexual, however, it's not always so simple. Heterosexual, homosexual, and bisexual men and women may become sexually attracted to children even though they're also attracted to adults. When this happens, it's usually because of insecurity or stress in an adult relationship, says Anthony Siracusa, a psychologist in Williamstown, Mass., who specializes in treating abused kids and sexual offenders. http://www.webmd.com/sex-relationships/features/explaining-pedophilia