Obama - Constitution's "fundamental flaw"

It would probably be good if you and others summarize, at least briefly, audio-visual presentations submitted for our comment, since many of us view these while at work and don't dare to do a high bandwidth download.

Youtube is not that high bandwidth. But I'm at work and it's blocked completely, so I will do a synopsis later, so I don't make any mistakes.

I can't wait to see the video. I assume it's a very well balanced and educational piece.

Conservative bloggers and websites have been flogging it, and now John McCain's campaign has put its imprimatur on it: a newly disclosed radio interview in which Democratic rival Barack Obama talks about the redistribution of wealth.

The interview, first reported by the Drudge Report, was with a Chicago radio station while he was an Illinois state senator on Sept. 6, 2001.

Obama is talking about the victories of the civil rights movement, and says, "You know if you look at the victories and the failures of the Civil Rights movement and its litigation strategy in the Court, I think where it succeeded was to invest formal rights in previously dispossessed peoples so that I would now have the right to vote, I would now be able to sit at the lunch counter and order as long as I could pay for it I would be okay. But the Supreme Court never ventured into the issues of redistribution of wealth and sort of more basic issues of political and economic justice in this society.... And one of the I think the tragedies of the Civil Rights movement was because the Civil Rights movement became so court focused I think that there was a tendency to lose track of the political and community organizing and activities on the ground that are able to put together the actual coalitions of power through which you bring about redistributive change and in some ways we still suffer from that."

The entire context of the interview isn't clear, and the sentiment isn't all that different from Martin Luther King Jr., who after the voting rights and other accomplishments of the 1960s civil rights movement moved toward greater emphasis on poverty and economic justice.

But McCain's campaign is jumping on it as part of the assault on Obama's remark to the famous Joe the plumber in Ohio that with America so economically troubled, it might be good to spread the wealth.

"The American people continue to learn more about Barack Obama. Now we know that the slogans 'change you can believe in' and 'change we need' are code words for Barack Obama's ultimate goal: 'redistributive change.' In a previously uncovered interview from September 6, 2001, Barack Obama expressed his regret that the Supreme Court hadn't been more 'radical' and described as a 'tragedy' the Court's refusal to take up 'the issues of redistribution of wealth.' No wonder he wants to appoint judges that legislate from the bench " as insurance in case a unified Democratic government under his control fails to meet his basic goal: taking money away from people who work for it and giving it to people who Barack Obama believes deserve it. Europeans call it socialism, Americans call it welfare, and Barack Obama calls it change," McCain senior policy adviser Douglas Holtz-Eakin said in a statement.



http://www.boston.com/news/politics/politicalintelligence/2008/10/mccain_slams_ob_3.html

And what does Barack say this "fundamental flaw" actually is?

That it allowed for slavery to persist in the fledgling USA.
Slavery and the Constitution
(Realplayer is required to play the stream.)

"...the right of the people... to keep and bear arms.... shall not be infringed.... unless I say so...".

I didn't hear that on the audio clip you posted.

so instead of doing a hard day's work engaging in the social contract you willingly entered into with your employer by taking your job, you are stealing money from your employer by not doing the job you are supposed to do while earning a paycheck from him.

good show fella, and you criticize blacks for laziness?

here's an idea.

do an honest day's worth of work once in a while.

and don't lie about being on lunch break you, posted at 8;53 am.

People should take note of the "in some ways". It turns the whole sentence into waffle which one assumes was the intention. What wasn't intended was that we notice it.

The "we" is also a bit iffy as is the suffering which is, as everybody knows, relative. And what is "redistributive change." Whores can do that.

We have Mr Jeremy Paxman to interrupt such sentences on the grounds that you don't get to be No 1 interviewer by allowing politicians to go off on one.

And he only "thinks" it anyway. At that specific moment.

The "in some ways" meant that with the civil rights movement and anti-povery movements that progressives got soft and thought they had won the battle of the hearts and minds of the American people by judicial fiat.

Obama is clearly alluding to the progressives having thought that cultural and political changes could be forced from the top down, and all they had to do was win a SCOTUS case to end racism, poverty, hunger, and intolerance.

His alternative is his grass roots political campaign.

i've fired people for that before. and i'm the one that's supposedly the liberal?

of course the constitution was fundamentally flawed.that's why they allowed for it's amendment;

i have too. its simple business ethics

Oh the big bogeyman.

You conservatives are so phucking stupid and you, H20man, are right up there leading the parade.

I must make note that none of you political wizards were able to define socialism in Ossobuco's thread. Pretty much tells us what you know about these things.

So both Brandon and cj are loafers. Pretty much tells why the economy is in the toilet. You can't get a good days work out of these conservative leeches.

yeah. one hell of a work ethic these white folk have.