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This is interesting, but I think its not going anywhere

 
 
Reply Sat 25 Oct, 2008 08:49 am
Let me start off by saying I havent been following this lawsuit, so I dont know where it stands now.

I also notice its a democrat bringing the lawsuit, which I didnt know.

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=78671

Quote:
Pennsylvania Democrat Philip J. Berg, who filed a lawsuit demanding Sen. Barack Obama present proof of his American citizenship, now says that by failing to respond Obama has legally "admitted" to the lawsuit's accusations, including the charge that the Democratic candidate was born in Mombosa, Kenya.

As WND reported, Berg filed suit in U.S. District Court in August, alleging Obama is not a natural-born citizen and is thus ineligible to serve as president of the United States. Though Obama has posted an image of a Hawaii birth certificate online, Berg demands that the court verify the original document, which the Obama campaign has not provided.

Now Berg cites Rule 36 of the Federal Rules of Civil Procedure, which states that unless the accused party provides written answer or objection to charges within 30 days, the accused legally admits the matter.


And here is Rule 36...

http://www.law.cornell.edu/rules/frcp/Rule36.htm

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Quote:
3) Time to Respond; Effect of Not Responding.

A matter is admitted unless, within 30 days after being served, the party to whom the request is directed serves on the requesting party a written answer or objection addressed to the matter and signed by the party or its attorney. A shorter or longer time for responding may be stipulated to under Rule 29 or be ordered by the court.


So while I'm not an expert, it does appear to this laymans eyes that this Berg person might actually have a point.
But let me say this again, I have NOT been following the case, so I have no idea whats actually happened.

 
BumbleBeeBoogie
 
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Reply Sat 25 Oct, 2008 09:12 am
@mysteryman,
You are right, it's not going anywhere.

BBB
H2O MAN
 
  1  
Reply Sat 25 Oct, 2008 09:14 am
@mysteryman,


Nothing more than a distraction from Obama's real problems.
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BumbleBeeBoogie
 
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Reply Sat 25 Oct, 2008 09:21 am
@BumbleBeeBoogie,
I searched through eight google pages and could only find reports re this lawsuit on right-wing republican blog sites.

BBB
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Foxfyre
 
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Reply Sat 25 Oct, 2008 09:45 am
@mysteryman,
mysteryman wrote:

Let me start off by saying I havent been following this lawsuit, so I dont know where it stands now.

I also notice its a democrat bringing the lawsuit, which I didnt know.

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=78671

Quote:
Pennsylvania Democrat Philip J. Berg, who filed a lawsuit demanding Sen. Barack Obama present proof of his American citizenship, now says that by failing to respond Obama has legally "admitted" to the lawsuit's accusations, including the charge that the Democratic candidate was born in Mombosa, Kenya.

As WND reported, Berg filed suit in U.S. District Court in August, alleging Obama is not a natural-born citizen and is thus ineligible to serve as president of the United States. Though Obama has posted an image of a Hawaii birth certificate online, Berg demands that the court verify the original document, which the Obama campaign has not provided.

Now Berg cites Rule 36 of the Federal Rules of Civil Procedure, which states that unless the accused party provides written answer or objection to charges within 30 days, the accused legally admits the matter.


And here is Rule 36...

http://www.law.cornell.edu/rules/frcp/Rule36.htm

(
Quote:
3) Time to Respond; Effect of Not Responding.

A matter is admitted unless, within 30 days after being served, the party to whom the request is directed serves on the requesting party a written answer or objection addressed to the matter and signed by the party or its attorney. A shorter or longer time for responding may be stipulated to under Rule 29 or be ordered by the court.


So while I'm not an expert, it does appear to this laymans eyes that this Berg person might actually have a point.
But let me say this again, I have NOT been following the case, so I have no idea whats actually happened.


The question of whether a candidate for President of the United States is eligible to hold the office is a valid question. But rather than putting the matter to rest in a decisive manner, Obama and the Democrats give every appearance of stalling rather than simply complying with the request. The MO is per usual--trash anybody who dares ask a question. So they're trying to discredit Berg and make him look like a raving lunatic. Just look what they're doing to "Joe the Plumber".

There's a pretty good discussion on this going here:
http://able2know.org/topic/121961-83#post-3450059
including information on two additional lawsuits filed by others who are demanding to see a valid birth certificate.
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kuvasz
 
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Reply Sat 25 Oct, 2008 10:58 am
Born in the U.S.A.

http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/born_in_the_usa.html
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roger
 
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Reply Sat 25 Oct, 2008 11:05 am
@mysteryman,
He's wasting his time. Anyone with one US citizen as a parent is a natural born American citizen. Wasn't McCain supposed to have been ineligible at one time for having been born in the Canal Zone, or something like that?
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farmerman
 
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Reply Sat 25 Oct, 2008 11:06 am
Just like the 9/11 "Truth" wackies, the "Obama birth fraud" wackies know better than the rest of us. Their facts are impeccable and not to be doubted. The facts that Obama presents, must be fake.

Foxy , mysteryman, and several others are running on empty.
Foxfyre
 
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Reply Sat 25 Oct, 2008 11:14 am
On the other thread that I linked are references to the three separate lawsuits filed by people that are seemingly unrelated to each other and with no apparent coordinating efforts with each other. These spell out the issues involved and the theories behind the possible problem with the birth certificates and why it would be prudent for Obama to simply put those issues to rest and end the speculation. (That also includes references to the birth certificate as posted by WND, FactCheck.org, Daily Kos, the Obama website, etc.)
farmerman
 
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Reply Sat 25 Oct, 2008 11:20 am
@Foxfyre,
Anybody, with enough time and some resources to waste, can sue anybody for anything. Remember the suit to abolish the findings of the 9/11 commission?


If you dont accept the basic information, then so be it.

I can see that the Obama cam,paign doesnt want to ower itself by responding to the "lawsuits", for to do so may require that funds be expended, and just to present the same information via the normal channels should keep them oiut of the suit (has anyone even been served?).
Butrflynet
 
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Reply Sat 25 Oct, 2008 11:28 am
@farmerman,
http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/citizen.asp
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blatham
 
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Reply Sat 25 Oct, 2008 04:19 pm
Snopes on the birth certificate lunar-ray claim with a just added note that the suit was tossed... http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/birthcertificate.asp

You guys REALLY gotta stop getting your 'information' from the moonpeople.
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mysteryman
 
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Reply Sat 25 Oct, 2008 05:57 pm
@farmerman,
Quote:
Foxy , mysteryman, and several others are running on empty.


I started my original post by saying I had NOT been following the case, so I knew nothing about it.
To say I was "running on empty" when I admitted that I didnt know the story is a little ridiculous, dont you think.
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farmerman
 
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Reply Sat 25 Oct, 2008 06:27 pm
@mysteryman,
I stand corrected MM. You are exempted from the "running on MT" broad brush. Indeed, you did have the necessary cautions.

I apologize to you.
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