Reply Fri 17 Oct, 2008 08:23 am
Residents in southeast Albuquerque are calling it "racism of the worst kind" after several Barack Obama campaign signs were spray painted with swastikas.

Neighbors say the vandalism occurred in broad daylight near Comanche and Eubank on Thursday.
 
OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Fri 17 Oct, 2008 08:33 am
@dyslexia,
Quote:

Residents in southeast Albuquerque are
calling it "racism of the worst kind [ ??]"

If thay knew their history a little better,
thay 'd know that it was not worse that the racism
which was perpetrated in the first half of the 1940s. (barbed wire, ovens, etc.)
Are thay doing those things to Obama ?





David
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Fri 17 Oct, 2008 08:37 am
@dyslexia,
Well, such can't happen in the Vendana Ranch neighbourhood

http://i34.tinypic.com/1zp1xs4.jpg
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dyslexia
 
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Reply Fri 17 Oct, 2008 08:47 am
@OmSigDAVID,
OmSigDAVID wrote:

Quote:

Residents in southeast Albuquerque are
calling it "racism of the worst kind [ ??]"

If thay knew their history a little better,
thay 'd know that it was not worse that the racism
which was perpetrated in the first half of the 1940s. (barbed wire, ovens, etc.)
Are thay doing those things to Obama ?

yes, it's difficult to understand how someone in albuquerque new mexico, usa could have an opinion that differs from David; but what's really hard to understand is that they express their opinion. I guess everyone should have their opinions vetted by david before expressing themselves.





David
OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Fri 17 Oct, 2008 09:23 am
@dyslexia,
That 's not fair, Dys.
U 've got it backward again.

U r distorting my comment.

I only remarked upon their IGNORANCE of history
and their misrepresentation thereof
(unless u think that the ovens were not as bad
as painting swastikas on the Obama signs).

However, u implied that I had told them to shut up
or that I 'd favored censorship of their opinion.
I am 100% innocent of that.

I did not say what u imply that I said,
but if thay want me to vet their stuff for historical accuracy:
I don t work cheap.


BumbleBeeBoogie
 
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Reply Fri 17 Oct, 2008 09:29 am
@OmSigDAVID,
David, you frequently have a way of stating things that lead people to interpretate it differently than you intended. Your style is the problem, not our understanding. It happens so often, I wonder why you've not realized it yet.

BBB
Foxfyre
 
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Reply Fri 17 Oct, 2008 09:30 am
Yes, it is usually the Republican signs that get vandalized--yes, sometimes with Swaztikas--and I am sorry to see anybody that might be on "our" side resorting to such childish behavior. Such vandalism does nothing to diminish the vandalized but much diminishes the vandal and exposes him/her as a person lacking in integrity, tolerance, and/or intelligence.

But racist? Please. If anything, a swaztika is accusing somebody of hatefulness, totalitarianism, and/or racism.

David's point is well taken. If vandalizing yard signs is the worst form of racism, then I guess we can say that acts that actually infringe on a person's unalienable, civil, legal, and Constitutional rights, his/her peace, his/her livelihood, his/her opportunities are lesser crimes.
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Fri 17 Oct, 2008 09:39 am
@Foxfyre,
Foxfyre wrote:

But racist? Please. If anything, a swaztika is accusing somebody of hatefulness, totalitarianism, and/or racism.


Well, such might be true if you leave out the time after 1933 until 1945 and how it is used by the extreme right and Neo-Nazis.
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parados
 
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Reply Fri 17 Oct, 2008 10:10 am
@Foxfyre,
Quote:
David's point is well taken. If vandalizing yard signs is the worst form of racism, then I guess we can say that acts that actually infringe on a person's unalienable, civil, legal, and Constitutional rights, his/her peace, his/her livelihood, his/her opportunities are lesser crimes.


Why does racism making something else a lesser crime? Racism in and of itself is not a crime so it can't be used to make a crime lesser than it was. You might as well have said "if it's the worst form of racism then I guess we can say it makes the sky pinker." At least it would have been an obvious non sequitor then.
OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Fri 17 Oct, 2008 10:10 am
@BumbleBeeBoogie,
Quote:

David, you frequently have a way of stating things that lead people
to interpretate it differently than you intended.
Your style is the problem, not our understanding.
It happens so often, I wonder why you've not realized it yet.

BBB, I have "not realized it yet" because what u alleged
is inconsistent with the operative facts.

An honest, objective appraisal of this interchange
will reveal that I only made a very simple statement,
commenting upon the ignorance of residents who said something,
according to Dys. I accept his word that thay said it.

It may be that in other venues,
I have been guilty of excessive complexity or intricacy,
but not here, not now.

I earnestly consider my style on this thread to have been very simple;
hence: easy to understand. Admittedly, I played with taking
the residents' words literally (that rankles liberals; thay detest that)
and I had a little fun by implying a taunt.
This is chronically endemic to this forum, of long standing.


I am confident that if I were a leftist,
condemning a conservative u 'd either have supported
my utterance, or u 'd have remained silent; i.e.: it depends on
whose ox is gored.

If u 'd like to objectively analyse my style as hereinbefore set forth,
I will be happy to entertain any scrutiny or parsing thereof.
(I have a hunch that u will not accept my invitation; prove me rong.)





David
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OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Fri 17 Oct, 2008 10:16 am
@parados,
Quote:

Why does racism making something else a lesser crime? Racism in and of itself is not a crime so it can't be used to make a crime lesser than it was. You might as well have said "if it's the worst form of racism then I guess we can say it makes the sky pinker." At least it would have been an obvious non sequitor then

U just don 't get it.
If u read the interchange over again
(it will only take a few seconds)
I have confidence that your intellect is of sufficient power
and incisive analysis that u will understand the points under discussion.





David
farmerman
 
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Reply Fri 17 Oct, 2008 10:44 am
@Foxfyre,
Your assertion that its The GOPers that get vandalized is not backed by truth. Here in SC Pa, we have Obama signs being stolen and burned and Noone has touched the GOP signs. That means that childishness seems to be SOP with the McCain campaign.
.



Foxfyre
 
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Reply Fri 17 Oct, 2008 10:48 am
@farmerman,
Really? How do you know? How many GOP signs are there? How do you know that the vandalism isn't being perpetuated by diehard Hillary supporters? I know that in my own neighborhood it is the GOP signs that have been vandalized, stolen, pushed down and not the Obama signs. What does that prove? Anti-McCain Republicans?
Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Fri 17 Oct, 2008 10:50 am
@Foxfyre,
Foxfyre wrote:

Really? How do you know? How many GOP signs are there? How do you know that the vandalism isn't being perpetuated by diehard Hillary supporters? I know that in my own neighborhood it is the GOP signs that have been vandalized, stolen, pushed down and not the Obama signs. What does that prove? Anti-McCain Republicans?


Yeah, it's obvious the die-hard Ron Paul supporters doing it Rolling Eyes

Cycloptichorn
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farmerman
 
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Reply Fri 17 Oct, 2008 10:52 am
@Foxfyre,
youre the one that brought all this up lady. I disagree because its been a news topic even on A2K about how Obama signs were being vandalized. Did you even notice the title of this very thread?

OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Fri 17 Oct, 2008 10:58 am
@farmerman,
Yeah; I did not understand that title.

What difference does it make ?
Anyone who puts up a sign
shoud expect it to be vandalized; t'was ever thus,
as if it changed anything.




Hopefully, no one is going onto private property
to do this.
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Foxfyre
 
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Reply Fri 17 Oct, 2008 11:03 am
@farmerman,
farmerman wrote:

youre the one that brought all this up lady. I disagree because its been a news topic even on A2K about how Obama signs were being vandalized. Did you even notice the title of this very thread?


I brought it up? Did you notice that the opening post in the thread had nothing at all to do with the title? And that it implied that the sign vandalism was due to racism?

(I get really really tired of most criticism of Obama, however appropriate or inappropriate or, in this case illegal, being assigned to racism. Is Obama the first politician to have signs vandalized? No he is not. To assume that such vandalism necessarily has to be racism is just stupid. And racist.)
Reyn
 
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Reply Fri 17 Oct, 2008 09:08 pm
@dyslexia,
dyslexia wrote:
pigs fly in albuquerque

http://www.bongonews.com/images/Caption_2007-06-16.jpg
Well, I can't trump a flying pig, but how about one that does mud baths with its owner?
OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Fri 17 Oct, 2008 11:09 pm
@Reyn,
O, no !
He 'll get his wings dirty !

Will he still get proper lift ?





David
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parados
 
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Reply Sat 18 Oct, 2008 06:39 am
@OmSigDAVID,
Your idiotic statement doesn't justify another idiotic one.
 

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