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A Better Bailout Plan?

 
 
Reply Mon 29 Sep, 2008 12:05 am
A friend of mine sent this to me the other day and I thought I would share it here. I have no idea where they found it, and I know it was meant as a joke, but somehow it makes perfect sense. Let me know what you think. . .

A Better Bailout Plan

I'm against the $85,000,000,000.00 bailout of AIG and the other Wall Street banks. Instead, I'm in favor of giving $85,000,000,000 to America in a 'We DeserveIt' Dividend.

To make the math simple, let's assume there are 200,000,000 bonafide U.S. Citizens 18+. Our population is about 301,000,000 +/- counting every man, woman and child. So 200,000,000 might be a fair stab at adults 18 and up. So divide 200 million adults 18+ into $85 billon, that equals $425,000.00. My plan is to give $425,000 to every person 18+ as a 'We Deserve It' Dividend.

Of course, it would NOT be tax free. So let's assume a tax rate of 30%. Every individual 18+ has to pay $127,500.00 in taxes. That sends $25,500,000,000 right back to Uncle Sam.

But it means that every adult 18+ has $297,500.00 in their pocket. A husband and wife has $595,000.00.

What would you do with $297,500.00 to $595,000.00 in your family?
Pay off your mortgage OR buy a new home - housing crisis solved.
Repay college loans - what a great boost to new grads.
Put away money for college and retirement - it'll be there.
Save money in a bank - create money to loan to entrepreneurs.
Buy a new car - create jobs.
Invest in the market - capital drives growth.
Pay for your parent's medical insurance - health care improves.
Enable Deadbeat Dads to come clean or else.

Remember this is for every adult U S Citizen 18+ , Republican, Democrat and Independant including the folks who lost their jobs at Lehman Brothers and every other company that is cutting back. And of course, for those serving in our Armed Forces. If we're going to re-distribute wealth let's really do it...instead of trickling out a puny $1000.00 economic incentive . If we're going to do an $85 billion bailout, let's bail out every adult U S Citizen 18+ !

REMEMBER this is NOT a socialist plan -- the government bailout and control of a dominating sector of our economy is a socialism -- using this plan the money will not be controlled by any person other than the private citizens investing private companies -- THIS MONEY IS OURS -- can we not decide how we want it spent -- the citizens of wall street ????

As for AIG - liquidate it. Sell off its parts. Let American General go back to being American General. Sell off the real estate. Let the private sector bargain hunters cut it up and clean it up. Here's my rationale. We deserve it and AIG doesn't.

Sure it's a crazy idea, but it can work! But can you imagine the Coast-To-Coast Block Party! How do you spell Economic Boom? I trust my fellow adult Americans to know how to use the $85 Billion. We deserve that dividend more than the geniuses at AIG !

Change that 85 Billon to 750 Billon, now how much is that to every person over 18 ???
We all would be rich...LOL.

Problem has been solved... Would somebody out there do something?... I did by sending this...LOL.

If any party out there who really wants to win big! This is the answer.
And this is the kind of thinking we need... Don't you think!?

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Robert Gentel
 
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Reply Mon 29 Sep, 2008 12:13 am
@LouPop13,
LouPop13 wrote:
I know it was meant as a joke, but somehow it makes perfect sense.


Only with some magic math.

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To make the math simple, let's assume there are 200,000,000 bonafide U.S. Citizens 18+. Our population is about 301,000,000 +/- counting every man, woman and child. So 200,000,000 might be a fair stab at adults 18 and up. So divide 200 million adults 18+ into $85 billon, that equals $425,000.00. My plan is to give $425,000 to every person 18+ as a 'We Deserve It' Dividend.


With normal math you'll get $425, not $425,000.
LouPop13
 
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Reply Mon 29 Sep, 2008 12:32 am
@Robert Gentel,
Robert Gentel wrote:

LouPop13 wrote:
I know it was meant as a joke, but somehow it makes perfect sense.


Only with some magic math.

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To make the math simple, let's assume there are 200,000,000 bonafide U.S. Citizens 18+. Our population is about 301,000,000 +/- counting every man, woman and child. So 200,000,000 might be a fair stab at adults 18 and up. So divide 200 million adults 18+ into $85 billon, that equals $425,000.00. My plan is to give $425,000 to every person 18+ as a 'We Deserve It' Dividend.


With normal math you'll get $425, not $425,000.


Sorry, I guess I didn't check the math first. . . but the idea sounded good.
Robert Gentel
 
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Reply Mon 29 Sep, 2008 12:59 am
@LouPop13,
No worries. "Bottom up" scenarios are appealing for good reason, and I've been mulling them over ever since the $700 billion came up.
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gungasnake
 
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Reply Mon 29 Sep, 2008 05:41 am
@LouPop13,
My plan would work after a fashion and is certainly better in the sense that no innocent person(s) would suffer or be affected.

Basically demoKKKrats have caused this calamity: the plan calls for all registered demoKKKrats being sold into slavery to pay for it.
Wilso
 
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Reply Mon 29 Sep, 2008 05:56 am
@gungasnake,
Would you like to provide some evidence as to how democrats caused this problem? Particularly since I don't think you'd find a single registered democrat on Wall Street. Or are you just foaming at the mouth for the hell of it like you always do you slimey pathetic loser?
gungasnake
 
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Reply Mon 29 Sep, 2008 06:00 am
@Wilso,
http://able2know.org/topic/123195-1
revel
 
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Reply Mon 29 Sep, 2008 07:01 am
@gungasnake,
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The revisionists say the problem wasn't too little regulation; but too much, via CRA. The law was enacted in response to both intentional redlining and structural barriers to credit for low-income communities. CRA applies only to banks and thrifts that are federally insured; it's conceived as a quid pro quo for that privilege. This means the law doesn't apply to independent mortgage companies (or payday lenders, check-cashers, etc.)

The law imposes on the covered depositories an affirmative duty to lend throughout the areas from which they take deposits, including poor neighborhoods. The law has teeth... Studies ... have shown that CRA increased lending and homeownership in poor communities without undermining banks' profitability.

But CRA has always had critics... Rhetoric aside, the argument turns on a simple question: In the current mortgage meltdown, did lenders approve bad loans to comply with CRA, or to make money?

The evidence strongly suggests the latter. First, consider timing. CRA was enacted in 1977. The sub-prime lending at the heart of the current crisis exploded a full quarter century later. ... In late 2004, the Bush administration announced plans to sharply weaken CRA regulations... Yet sub-prime lending continued, and even intensified -- at the very time ... the law had weakened.

Second, it is hard to blame CRA for the mortgage meltdown when CRA doesn't even apply to most of the loans that are behind it. ... Perhaps one in four sub-prime loans were made by the institutions fully governed by CRA.


http://economistsview.typepad.com/economistsview/2008/04/did-liberals-ca.html

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The Monster That Ate Wall Street

How 'credit default swaps'"an insurance against bad loans"turned from a smart bet into a killer.

They're called "Off-Site Weekends""rituals of the high-finance world in which teams of bankers gather someplace sunny to blow off steam and celebrate their successes as Masters of the Universe. Think yacht parties, bikini models, $1,000 bottles of Cristal. One 1994 trip by a group of JPMorgan bankers to the tony Boca Raton Resort & Club in Florida has become the stuff of Wall Street legend"though not for the raucous partying (although there was plenty of that, too). Holed up for most of the weekend in a conference room at the pink, Spanish-style resort, the JPMorgan bankers were trying to get their heads around a question as old as banking itself: how do you mitigate your risk when you loan money to someone? By the mid-'90s, JPMorgan's books were loaded with tens of billions of dollars in loans to corporations and foreign governments, and by federal law it had to keep huge amounts of capital in reserve in case any of them went bad. But what if JPMorgan could create a device that would protect it if those loans defaulted, and free up that capital?

What the bankers hit on was a sort of insurance policy: a third party would assume the risk of the debt going sour, and in exchange would receive regular payments from the bank, similar to insurance premiums. JPMorgan would then get to remove the risk from its books and free up the reserves. The scheme was called a "credit default swap," and it was a twist on something bankers had been doing for a while to hedge against fluctuations in interest rates and commodity prices. While the concept had been floating around the markets for a couple of years, JPMorgan was the first bank to make a big bet on credit default swaps. It built up a "swaps" desk in the mid-'90s and hired young math and science grads from schools like MIT and Cambridge to create a market for the complex instruments. Within a few years, the credit default swap (CDS) became the hot financial instrument, the safest way to parse out risk while maintaining a steady return. "I've known people who worked on the Manhattan Project," says Mark Brickell, who at the time was a 40-year-old managing director at JPMorgan. "And for those of us on that trip, there was the same kind of feeling of being present at the creation of something incredibly important."

Like Robert Oppenheimer and his team of nuclear physicists in the 1940s, Brickell and his JPMorgan colleagues didn't realize they were creating a monster. Today, the economy is teetering and Wall Street is in ruins, thanks in no small part to the beast they unleashed 14 years ago. The country's biggest insurance company, AIG, had to be bailed out by American taxpayers after it defaulted on $14 billion worth of credit default swaps it had made to investment banks, insurance companies and scores of other entities. So much of what's gone wrong with the financial system in the past year can be traced back to credit default swaps, which ballooned into a $62 trillion market before ratcheting down to $55 trillion last week"nearly four times the value of all stocks traded on the New York Stock Exchange. There's a reason Warren Buffett called these instruments "financial weapons of mass destruction." Since credit default swaps are privately negotiated contracts between two parties and aren't regulated by the government, there's no central reporting mechanism to determine their value. That has clouded up the markets with billions of dollars' worth of opaque "dark matter," as some economists like to say. Like rogue nukes, they've proliferated around the world and now lie hiding, waiting to blow up the balance sheets of countless other financial institutions.


Read the whole article to get an idea how this swapping tied all these lenders (who are outside regulating control) together and created a dominoes effect for the housing industry. Scapegoating the poor is a time honored tradition among some republicans but in this case it is simply not true.

http://www.newsweek.com/id/161199/output/print
gungasnake
 
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Reply Mon 29 Sep, 2008 07:15 am
@revel,
The poor are basically victims. It's the rogue democrat party which is being (justifiably) scapegoated.
revel
 
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Reply Mon 29 Sep, 2008 07:16 am
@gungasnake,
Rolling Eyes
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rabel22
 
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Reply Mon 29 Sep, 2008 09:59 am
@gungasnake,
Gunga,
The republicans have been takeing advantage of the poor through various political tricks since ronny ray gun spent his eight years in office trying to distroy the government. Either be honest or take your medicine and take a nap.
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Wilso
 
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Reply Fri 3 Oct, 2008 02:47 pm
BTW, the 1M each plan would cost the US over 300 trillion dollars. That's real money!
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