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After this massive bailout, I never want to hear another conservative A2Ker whining about socialism. OSD, CJ, Gunga and the other gun nuts better gather all their guns and head underground, or move to Sweden where they still have some respect for capitalist principles.

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@JTT,

A bit harsh, JTT. We just let off steam within the confines of a2k where we are challenged, and we challenge those who have opposing ideas. Nothing wrong with that, really. What else can we do with our "spare" time? LOL

Even I lose my cool and patience with some of those "guys." I'm sure they do with us, too!

After all is said and done, who's harmed since this is still a cloister in this world with all the forms of communication.

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@cicerone imposter,

Well said.

(We do)

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@JTT,

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After this massive bailout, I never want to hear another conservative A2Ker whining about socialism.

Why?

Is the choice between fang & claw capitalism or socialism?

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@Finn dAbuzz,

The choice is not between fang and claw capitalism and socialism. If Senator Obama supports the legislation, it is NOT about fang and claw capitalism or socialism since Senator Obama supports neither of those ideas.

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@JTT,

This so called "bail-out" in no way represents socialism.

Acquiring assets and disposing of them to the private sector is not representative of a socialist activity.

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@Woiyo9,

It's obvious you have no idea what the definition is; like most things you spout on a2k.

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@cicerone imposter,

Then explain where I am wrong .

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@Woiyo9,

Just look for the definition of "socialism." That's only the first clue.

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@cicerone imposter,

Whatever. No sense in arguing this with an idiot like you.

Have a nice day.

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@Woiyo9,

Don't even own a dictionary? ROFL
Figures.

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@cicerone imposter,

Socialism--definition--A theory or system of social organization that advocates the ownership of industry, capital, land, etc. by the community as a whole--In Marxist theory the stage following capitalism in the transition of capitalist society to communism.

The right winger recoil in horror when the S word is mentioned, but how much better would it be for the poor and dispossessed if we had a little more Socialism--not a lot--just enough so that the CEO's who make 300 times more than an honest worker might be cut down to size. I will never forget reading a great book by a great man--Andrew Hacker--in his "Money" in which he opined( the book was written in 1997) that no one needed more than $100,000 a year tops and that all money made beyond that should go to the government to be re-distributed to the poor. Hacker commented that it would make the life of the poor so much better and hardly hurt the $100,000 a year crowd. It sounds reasonable to me but it will never happen in this institutionally racist country unless someone like President Barack Obama is elected.

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A few million citizens should storm Washington and grab all these assholes out of congress and hang them in front of the Capital.... then gather up all the CEO's responsible for this and draw and quarter them alive.

Put it all on a pay for view and bingo.... no more national debt.

I would not take part in such a radical action.... but I would be willing to sell bootleg whiskey to all the participants to get them in the mood for the coup.

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@Bi-Polar Bear,

There are some decent people in DC. Barney Frank has given his all--So has Speaker Pelosi. You should concentrate your efforts on the racist Republicans.

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@Bi-Polar Bear,

BPB, Best idea I've heard so far on any web site or a2k.

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@Bi-Polar Bear,

I'm sure that you wouldn't want to include people like Senator Kennedy in that lynching. Senator Kennedy has been one of the best friends of the poor and the powerless. So has Senator Schumer. You have to be selective.

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@barackman28,

The same Barney Frank who said in 2004 that Fannie Mae is fine?

Nothing could more painfully demonstrate what is wrong with Congress than the current financial crisis.

Among the Congressional "leaders" invited to the White House to devise a bailout "solution" are the very people who have for years created the risks that have now come home to roost.

Five years ago, Barney Frank vouched for the "soundness" of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, and said "I do not see" any "possibility of serious financial losses to the treasury."

Moreover, he said that the federal government has "probably done too little rather than too much to push them to meet the goals of affordable housing."

http://townhall.com/columnists/ThomasSowell/2008/09/30/bailout_politics&Comments=true

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@Woiyo9,

People love to attack Representative Barney Frank. The fact is that he is one of the most intelligent and hard working Representatives in the House. Some people are determined to smear him on the basis that he is overtly gay. Representative Frank lets those comments go right over his head and continues to work for his constitutents. He and Governor Deval Patrick have a special bond!

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@barackman28,

So any and all criticism of Barney Frank has to do with him being gay?

If being a homosexual renders one immune from criticism, I need to take another close look at Brad Pitt and see if something clicks.

Franks involvement in this financial mess has nothing to do with him being gay. Corrupt perhaps but, unless you know something the rest of us don't, not gay.

As for your silly notions of imposing some sort of arbitrary cap on CEO compensation, you're not advocating socialism, you're advocating idiocy.

Go ahead and set a cap on CEO salaries and see what happens: Our most talented businessmen will leave our shores, and rightly so.

I guess you don't realize that every CEO making millions is not presiding over a failed company.Far from it.

What do you think about sports figures and entertainers? Should we cap their comp at $100K?

If we do, how long do you think it will be before all of our NBA players flee to Europe? How long before George Clooney moves to France?

I'm sure Ophra is all OK with accepting such a limit - she's a CEO you know.

Silly nonsense.

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@Finn dAbuzz,

Finn dAbuzz wrote:

So any and all criticism of Barney Frank has to do with him being gay?

If being a homosexual renders one immune from criticism, I need to take another close look at Brad Pitt and see if something clicks.

Franks involvement in this financial mess has nothing to do with him being gay. Corrupt perhaps but, unless you know something the rest of us don't, not gay.

As for your silly notions of imposing some sort of arbitrary cap on CEO compensation, you're not advocating socialism, you're advocating idiocy.

Go ahead and set a cap on CEO salaries and see what happens: Our most talented businessmen will leave our shores, and rightly so.

I guess you don't realize that every CEO making millions is not presiding over a failed company.Far from it.

What do you think about sports figures and entertainers? Should we cap their comp at $100K?

If we do, how long do you think it will be before all of our NBA players flee to Europe? How long before George Clooney moves to France?

I'm sure Ophra is all OK with accepting such a limit - she's a CEO you know.

Silly nonsense.

There's some thought that the member in question is a troll, back from long ago, known for aggressively playing the other side of the fence.

Cycloptichorn

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