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Presidential Debate! Tonight!

 
 
Lambchop
 
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Reply Fri 26 Sep, 2008 07:24 pm
@realjohnboy,
McCain's trotting out the usual conservative "trickle down" theory.

The problem is nothing ever trickles down.
realjohnboy
 
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Reply Fri 26 Sep, 2008 07:27 pm
@Lambchop,
At 9:27 I have McCain up a bit.
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msolga
 
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Reply Fri 26 Sep, 2008 07:28 pm
(Listening now in Oz .....be very interested in what you US folk make of both their positions.)
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squinney
 
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Reply Fri 26 Sep, 2008 07:39 pm
Obama said orgy.

McCain said maverick... twice.
dyslexia
 
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Reply Fri 26 Sep, 2008 07:40 pm
30 mins in, lots of flash, not much content.
dyslexia
 
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Reply Fri 26 Sep, 2008 07:41 pm
@dyslexia,
winning iraq=peace with honor; mccain/nixon
msolga
 
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Reply Fri 26 Sep, 2008 07:42 pm
The replies to the "lessons of Iraq" are very interesting! Obama makes a lot more sense. McCain seems to be just talking populist jargon.
Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Fri 26 Sep, 2008 07:44 pm
@msolga,
I do believe Obama is winning this debate.

Cycloptichorn
msolga
 
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Reply Fri 26 Sep, 2008 07:44 pm
@Cycloptichorn,
So far so do I.
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JTT
 
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Reply Fri 26 Sep, 2008 07:44 pm
@DontTreadOnMe,
McCain gave up all riht to talks about his time as a POW when he refused to let it be the subject of discussion. Given his propensity to lie, why would anyone take him at his word as to what happened in Vietnam?
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msolga
 
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Reply Fri 26 Sep, 2008 07:48 pm
McCain seems to be saying that the US "success" in Iraq can be followed in Afghanistan? What?Confused
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dyslexia
 
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Reply Fri 26 Sep, 2008 07:48 pm
@dyslexia,
obama moving ahead on actually answering the questions
msolga
 
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Reply Fri 26 Sep, 2008 07:49 pm
@dyslexia,
Yes, He seems much clearer, more realistic & less reliant on jargon.
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Lambchop
 
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Reply Fri 26 Sep, 2008 07:52 pm
@Cycloptichorn,
Same here!
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Fri 26 Sep, 2008 07:54 pm
Looks like a toss-up to me. Unfortunately.
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FreeDuck
 
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Reply Fri 26 Sep, 2008 07:56 pm
@squinney,
I was watching the little audience approval lines scroll across the screen when he said that. It plummeted. I think calling yourself a maverick twice in a row violates some law of self promotion.

Now, after about 30 minutes of McCain making an excellent case for himself remaining in the Senate (to combat spending, he's done it! he knows how to do it!), he finally appears in his comfort zone. He managed to goad Obama into responding to that ridiculous jab about the difference between a tactic and a strategy. But Obama still looks better to me. McCain keeps doing this little smirky laugh thing that comes across to me as dismissive. Obama has, for the most part, gotten a handle on the relentless pausing that used to make me cringe in his debates with Hillary. He seems a lot more at ease arguing with McCain.

I really like Lehrer. He's doing a bang-up job.
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squinney
 
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Reply Fri 26 Sep, 2008 07:56 pm
Obama called McCain on shouting out threats...bomb bomb bomb bomb bomb Iran.
FreeDuck
 
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Reply Fri 26 Sep, 2008 07:59 pm
What is also interesting in watching the little fan-o-meter at the bottom of the screen is noticing where one party or another is out of touch with everyone else. On the health care stuff, you could see where indys and Dems were in agreement and the Republicans were still flying high on their lonesome free market approach magic carpet. The only people who seem to have much of an opinion at all are the indys. Their line is the only one that moves that much.
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msolga
 
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Reply Fri 26 Sep, 2008 08:01 pm
I am growing very weary of McCain talking constantly about his "record" of being in every single trouble-spot ... generally well before it became really important! Laughing
OCCOM BILL
 
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Reply Fri 26 Sep, 2008 08:03 pm
@squinney,
squinney wrote:

Obama called McCain on shouting out threats...bomb bomb bomb bomb bomb Iran.
Those punches landed. Following our enemies into Pakistan does make sense. Obama's failed to effectively pound in Iraq as a $600 Billion Dollar mistake. "I ask the American Tax Payers... all 150 million of you... Would you have preferred a check for $4,000 each?"

Ooh... McCain's temper is flaring a bit...
 

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