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HBO and Clooney/Soderbergh "K Street" SPOILERS!

 
 
Reply Thu 18 Sep, 2003 09:19 am
Politicians as entertainers? The Matalin/Carville marriage is certainly entertaining and they play that up on the first episode. But can they sustain an audience for Washington as not just a dramatic stage but as a reality sitcom as well? Quite an intriguing concept and experiment in reality TV. They do meld the dramatized (somewhat fictionalized) sections with the actual events (in this case culminating in the Democratic debate with a focus on Howard Dean).
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Butrflynet
 
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Reply Fri 19 Sep, 2003 06:59 pm
The Matalin/Carville story would be an interesting read or view. I find it admirable that two people of such opposite viewpoints can not only keep a marriage and family together but also work as competitiors in the same profession.

I think there is a lot to be learned from such a couple.

I don't get cable so can't comment on the TV show you refer to, but it sounds like one I'd find entertaining.
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Lightwizard
 
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Reply Sat 20 Sep, 2003 07:17 am
In the previews of the show, Matalin points out that there is more cooperation from both sides of the aisle than they're given credit for. The funny bit was how she was miffed that James was going to be a coach for Dean in the upcoming debate because she was worried it would jeopardize their new firm's clientele.
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Sofia
 
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Reply Sat 11 Oct, 2003 06:19 pm
bm
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Lightwizard
 
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Reply Sat 11 Oct, 2003 06:29 pm
Is that a bookmark or did you have to go to the bathroom? Very Happy
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Sofia
 
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Reply Sat 11 Oct, 2003 06:32 pm
<deadpan delivery>
You're too funny.

<Steven Wright intonation>
Stop......You're killing me.


:wink:

So, whats the deal with the blond girl...Mary? I'm not getting her.
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yeahman
 
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Reply Sat 11 Oct, 2003 09:13 pm
i saw the 1st 2 episodes. the 1st one with dean was great.
but there's a bit too much fiction mixed in. there's 1 character, some lady in carville's firm, not his wife, that isn't really too good of an actress. she ruins a few scenes.

i was wondering if the scene with dean was real. he uses begala's line during the real cbc? debate.
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Lightwizard
 
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Reply Sun 12 Oct, 2003 09:10 am
I believe the Dean debate scenes were real and that was a high point when he did use Begala's line during the debate. There was no reason to dramatize. I believe the lady who works for the Carville firm is a real person, not an actress.
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Sofia
 
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Reply Sun 12 Oct, 2003 09:16 am
Dean took some criticism about using the 'show line' in the real debate. His campaign tried to pass it off as his, but he had to admit it, later.

Somebody explain the girl with the long, blond hair... Is she a lesbian? Is she disturbed? The one investigating the New Guy. And, I know I'm blurry on my information, but who is Elliot Gould? The mysterious Bergdorf, who runs the Matalin/Carville firm from a penthouse?

Please fill in...

Looking forward to tonight.
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Lightwizard
 
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Reply Sun 12 Oct, 2003 09:27 am
The Elliot Gould character and the flashback is confusing -- perhaps it will all eventually tie together but I can see this is not a show one can just visit in on. You'd be lost. Of course, that's true of all the serialized shows on TV, it's just that the format needs more of a main storytelling base and perhaps they are trying to establish that. Otherwise, it's episodic to a fault.
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eoe
 
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Reply Sun 12 Oct, 2003 10:09 am
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Sofia
 
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Reply Sun 12 Oct, 2003 10:16 am
OK, so it must have been the Spa Date woman, who sent the guy to the blond woman's office to threaten her about calling that woman again.

(I can see I'm going to have to pay closer attention to the names tonight... Laughing )

Is the blond woman's name Mary? It would be sort of odd to have two Mary's in one office, but I could swear that's her name... The lover--Gail?

What in hell is the New Guy's name...? The one who seems to be a plant from Bergdorf?

I think Elliot will be recurring, but maybe not regular. I'm going to have to catch some reruns.... I've been sort of distracted, but interested.
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eoe
 
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Reply Sun 12 Oct, 2003 10:35 am
It comes on in rerun practically every night, along with Carnivale and all the other hbo series.

That's interesting Sofia, the spa woman being the same who sent the guy to threaten her but didn't we see a dark-haired woman standing outside her office building right afterwards? Just a glimpse? Was that the spa woman?

Francisco Dupre is the New Guy. We still don't really know who he is, or do we?
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Lightwizard
 
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Reply Sun 12 Oct, 2003 01:02 pm
I think they may be introducing characters and will be able to gradually tie all of them together. It bears a lot of resemblance to Altman's "Short Cuts" which spawned "Magnolia." I guess going back and seeing the previous episodes would thrown some light onto what direction it's going in. The Elliot Gould character could develop into a "Gatsby" type mysterious person who we may never know where his finances and influences are entirely. Did you notice how he was eliminating the list of names for the Arab front organization? Wow -- intrigue and intriguing.
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eoe
 
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Reply Sun 12 Oct, 2003 01:10 pm
Which one name did he not erase for the Arab front organization, LW. Do you remember?
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Lightwizard
 
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Reply Sun 12 Oct, 2003 04:44 pm
The one that two weeks later (in the earlier episode) was the controversy the Carville/Matalin firm was having over representing them. I'm trying to remember the exact wording, something about Middle East harmony. Have no idea where they are going with this one.
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Sofia
 
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Reply Mon 13 Oct, 2003 06:32 am
For my memory:
Tommy is the grey-haired guy.
Maggie is the blond woman.

People, guess what! On Fox news today, they had a news story on Matalin. She'd called the RNC and asked for permission to film at a fund-raiser or something... I think they let her do it, but then came out complaining bitterly about it later.

She's being hounded by news crews. (They must've gotten some good stuff.)
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Lightwizard
 
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Reply Mon 13 Oct, 2003 09:04 am
Both of them are talented at infiltrating and making freedom of speech actually mean something regardless of their political ideology. Will we see something of K Street that we haven't seen in the news?
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Lightwizard
 
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Reply Mon 13 Oct, 2003 05:52 pm
Missed last night episode so will have to catch it on repeat or VOD.
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Sofia
 
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Reply Mon 20 Oct, 2003 09:07 am
Och! What is wrong with Tommy? He was finishing up with a prostitute, and that brunette apparition in the red dress was in the room with him. <spooky>

I think Tommy is just about to lose a screw. (Pun accepted.)
He seems to be headed for a major mental renovation.

Maggie is bi.
No Elliot Gould.
Mary and James are having entirely too much fun doing this.
Not much professional intrigue this time, but some personal... :wink:
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