Latest Challenges to the Teaching of Evolution

(sic) does not mean "can you believe that." Again, invest in a dictionary, give a link to your source which is suspicious, and is that all a quote or is some of that your incomprehensible mush?

Now if it had been written Cunning Ham or CunningHam, which I thought was likely the joke, then a (sic) is appropriate.

Sic transit gloria mundi

Integritas, consonantia, claritas.

A list of Latin words you are not? How clever. Here's another

tranquillitate animi

e pluribus unum.

kind of sums up the evolutional development of the human species, doesn't it ?

When we become unshackled from disorganized religion, it will be:

De Profundis Ad Astra

probably. but to be honest, the current crop of big religions will probably simply be replaced by another religion or religions. and that will be cool and they will suffice for a while until the next big leap in man's evolution and ability to understand the universe around him.

or, maybe everyone will adopt a tribble and leave it at that.

DTOM, What do you think will be our future religions?

i'm not sure, ci. but so far, it seems like the same story of origin and divinity has been co-opted and modified over and over again. all seem to have been originally intended to give a less scientific and less enlightened human species some explanation of 1) how we came to be. 2) what happens to us when we die. 3) that someone's always watching, so shape up.

for part ( 1 ), we have a much better understanding of reaching back to the big bang. theory states that it is probable that the universe has expanded and contracted more than one time. that there are multiple universes. that time and space are connected in ways that we can measure. that even though we have no certain knowledge that there are live beings in the universes, we have found places where under the right conditions, life similar to our own could possibly develop. it's possible that there are other life forms that are distinctly different to our own.

that said, there has to have been some kind of initiator of the first big bang, so i have no recourse to acknowledge a creator or creators. but, that may have been initiated unintentionally or even un-noticed.

everything we know and what we haven't discovered yet that is in the known universe could well be nothing more than a microbe of a much larger physical reality; if i understand the basic workings of the chaos theory correctly. but quantum mechanics is way beyond my total comprehension as a mere rock 'n roller.

as far as (2) and (3) goes;

* i don't find any reason to believe that the creator stands around waiting for someone to piss him off so that he can toss a little tribulation our way. in the physical world, sometimes bad **** happens to good people. not because el jefe saw you getting drunk last week, but because there are bad people in the world.

* no one knows what happens to us when we leave our earthly bodies. anyone that tells you that only they have the answer to that question is trying to control you and most likely trying pick up some walking around money.

we have laws to keep us on the straight and narrow less we be punished. so the traditional role of the church is become irrelevant in that regard.

on the other hand; it could well be that we are still millennia away from the human race becoming self aware and confident enough to distill it all down to the one thing we haven't scientifically defined; "who, and where, is the creator?"

the mystery of the creator, and that entity's origin ( is he the seventh son of a seventh son?) is certainly more than enough of a curiosity to keep me busy.

why muddy the water with a lot of irrelevant hokus-pokus?

whatever future religions consist of, the fact that organized religion is losing people consistantly makes me think that the current big three are not really giving people the answers to the questions that they are asking now.

and don't forget the tribbles...

But the questions people ask are manipulable.

Science, Sientology probebly mispelled. Most people need something they dont understand to believe in.

in deed. but doesn't an honest search for the meaning of it all deserve an honest answer?

in which case, the most honest answer would be "we don't know".

yeah, i guess we could say that many, many humans have daddy issues, for lack of a better way to say it.

it just seems to me that often people say and do things that they know they shouldn't because they believe that by going to a big building for 2 hours once a week gets them off the hook.

wouldn't it be better, and less stressful, to simply follow their conscience in the first place ?

I think you're headed in the right direction, but it can't be anything that strings along from past religions in any way.

There are many "I don't know" questions that we humans are incapable of answering - even through science.

Some of the unanswerable questions we humans have are (in no particular order):
a) how did life begin
b) are there other life forms in other planets
c) how did all this (universe) begin (other than the big bang theory)
d) how did the makeup of the biology of all living things come into existence from fish, fowl to land animals (and insects)
e) we humans do not use the full capacity of our brains (how much more potential do we have?)
f) are all life forms prone to kill something else?
g) where do genius' come from? savant

Can a religion be born from these human mysteries?
h)

Which is the answer I have given numerous times on these threads.

And it begs a question. What do we do about it? Can we be conditioned to have no interest in the matter and if we are, as Brave New World envisages, what institutions are then needed to prevent us reverting to our biological determinants?

Admitting one doesn't know the meaning of life will also not know the purpose of life. It's obvious who doesn't know either, but tries to state that they do.

Further proof, if you mean my goodself, that you can't read properly LW. I have never said, or intimated or even hinted that I know anything about either matter. I know what life is though. It is a rolling frontier where the past plunges into the future. And my role is to stay here as long as I can.

i agree. there has to be a way to continue spiritual growth as a species without simply retreading the same old story over and over.

what it will take, i think, is an event of mind blowing proportions. and the only thing that comes to mind would be contact with an extraterrestrial of like or higher evolution.

at the same time, it's entirely possible that any species we encountered could be facing the same spiritual dilemma as we are.

that would be kind of a let down, huh?

There's Yoni Bare. Have you thought of that?

of course... the best way to encounter a yoni is bare.

the problem with it as a religion is that you have to wait 20 minutes between prayers.