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Latest Challenges to the Teaching of Evolution

 
 
tenderfoot
 
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Reply Fri 30 Mar, 2012 09:58 pm
@farmerman,
If the USA religious twits like Specialhead, had their way... Science would be removed from public schools and they would end up having a happy Christian nation, like the good old Christians of the past centuries did. Thank Goddess and fairys and elves. I won't be there to see it.
farmerman
 
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Reply Fri 30 Mar, 2012 10:09 pm
@tenderfoot,
yeh, and even his style of christianity is out of Alice behind the ooking Glass.
demonhunter
 
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Reply Fri 30 Mar, 2012 10:47 pm
@farmerman,
troll alert.
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spendius
 
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Reply Sat 31 Mar, 2012 03:41 am
@MontereyJack,
Hey Jack--Victoria's catalogue back numbers can be had at vicarage Bring and Buy sale stalls. 5 for a £1.
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farmerman
 
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Reply Sat 31 Mar, 2012 04:40 am
@wandeljw,
The summary article fails to recognize the creative nature of many of our science departments in public schools. When the Oklahoma legislature sees the number of biology teachers oppenly critiquing Creationism to show why it DOES NOT represent good science, they are gonna **** a brick in Oklahoma City.According to the legislation, if the legislation so sees that the concept of organic evolution is deemed "controversial" the teachers acn provide aternate evidence to show the strengths and weaknesses. Nowhere does it show that the challenging "theory" (creationism" isnt open for the same critique.
Why not let em reap the whirlwind that theyve legislatively sown. It may be interesting to see the old proverb'Be careful what you wish for"... be openly presented

spendius
 
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Reply Sat 31 Mar, 2012 06:13 am
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For the indignant man, and he who perpetually tears and lacerates himself with his own teeth (or, in place of himself, the world, God, or society), may indeed, morally speaking, stand higher than the laughing and self- satisfied satyr, but in every other sense he is the more ordinary, more indifferent, and less instructive case. And no one is such a LIAR as the indignant man.


Nietzsche. Beyond Good and Evil.
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spendius
 
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Reply Sat 31 Mar, 2012 06:25 am
@farmerman,
Quote:
Why not let em reap the whirlwind that theyve legislatively sown. It may be interesting to see the old proverb'Be careful what you wish for"... be openly presented


Well--they are taking responsibility for it. They have their names signed on the bottom. They have the voters' permission or even their instructions.

What do you take responsibility for? You won't even contemplate any whirlwind you might be sowing. You're obviously frightened to death of the consequences of universal atheism. Why else will you not discuss them despite repeated demands that you do so?
We already live in the whirlwind they are into bat for. Your whirlwind is on Ignore.

What's your problem with flat out eugenics. Evolution claims that the environment does exactly that only mindlessly.

That "why not" sounds like a resigned surrender.

Evolution is a synonym for God.
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farmerman
 
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Reply Sat 31 Mar, 2012 07:59 am
@farmerman,
yep, they will **** a brick
spendius
 
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Reply Sat 31 Mar, 2012 05:01 pm
@farmerman,
I don't think that the ladies of refined feminine sensibilities will engage in anything of that nature fm. They think science is in rather bad taste as they suspect it is an excuse to look up their frocks.

Perhaps you think there are no ladies 0f refined feminine sensibilities in Oklahoma. Perhaps you are right or will be after 20 years of evolution teaching in schools with teachers who don't mind calling a spade a spade in public or even delight in doing so.
farmerman
 
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Reply Sat 31 Mar, 2012 05:33 pm
@spendius,
when pasta and ante pasta come into contact, do they annihilate each other with a great release of energy?
spendius
 
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Reply Sun 1 Apr, 2012 08:29 am
@farmerman,
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The summary article fails to recognize the creative nature of many of our science departments in public schools.


It is not alone fm--check this out from Nietzsche.

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206. In relation to the genius, that is to say, a being who either ENGENDERS or PRODUCES—both words understood in their fullest sense—the man of learning, the scientific average man, has always something of the old maid about him; for, like her, he is not conversant with the two principal functions of man. To both, of course, to the scholar and to the old maid, one concedes respectability, as if by way of indemnification—in these cases one emphasizes the respectability—and yet, in the compulsion of this concession, one has the same admixture of vexation. Let us examine more closely: what is the scientific man? Firstly, a commonplace type of man, with commonplace virtues: that is to say, a non-ruling, non-authoritative, and non-self-sufficient type of man; he possesses industry, patient adaptableness to rank and file, equability and moderation in capacity and requirement; he has the instinct for people like himself, and for that which they require—for instance: the portion of independence and green meadow without which there is no rest from labour, the claim to honour and consideration (which first and foremost presupposes recognition and recognisability), the sunshine of a good name, the perpetual ratification of his value and usefulness, with which the inward DISTRUST which lies at the bottom of the heart of all dependent men and gregarious animals, has again and again to be overcome. The learned man, as is appropriate, has also maladies and faults of an ignoble kind: he is full of petty envy, and has a lynx-eye for the weak points in those natures to whose elevations he cannot attain. He is confiding, yet only as one who lets himself go, but does not FLOW; and precisely before the man of the great current he stands all the colder and more reserved—his eye is then like a smooth and irresponsive lake, which is no longer moved by rapture or sympathy. The worst and most dangerous thing of which a scholar is capable results from the instinct of mediocrity of his type, from the Jesuitism of mediocrity, which labours instinctively for the destruction of the exceptional man, and endeavours to break—or still better, to relax—every bent bow To relax, of course, with consideration, and naturally with an indulgent hand—to RELAX with confiding sympathy that is the real art of Jesuitism, which has always understood how to introduce itself as the religion of sympathy.
spendius
 
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Reply Sun 1 Apr, 2012 04:53 pm
@spendius,
And then there's Hofstadter who reckons that if you pay in peanuts only monkeys show up. The big money is in advertising and the law where "truth" is hard to find.

Not the really big money of course. That's Wall Street.
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farmerman
 
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Reply Sun 1 Apr, 2012 05:30 pm
@farmerman,
A proton goes into a bar and orders a pink lady."Certain you want a pink lady ?" says the barkeep
"Im positive" said the proton
izzythepush
 
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Reply Sun 1 Apr, 2012 05:37 pm
@farmerman,
A higgs bosun particle turns up at Church. 'Come on in,' said the priest. 'Without you we can't have mass.'
farmerman
 
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Reply Sun 1 Apr, 2012 06:17 pm
@izzythepush,
now thats what Im talkin about. But I know you didnt mean a boatswain did you? Wink
edgarblythe
 
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Reply Sun 1 Apr, 2012 06:29 pm
A neutron walked into a bar and asked, "How much for a drink?" The bartender replied, "For you, no charge."
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Setanta
 
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Reply Sun 1 Apr, 2012 09:57 pm
I'm gratified to see that this thread has gotten back on an intellectual level.
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izzythepush
 
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Reply Mon 2 Apr, 2012 02:49 am
@farmerman,
I don't think I've seen it written down, I just went with my gut.
farmerman
 
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Reply Mon 2 Apr, 2012 06:07 am
@izzythepush,
a mushroom walks into a bar
The bartender immediately says"Get out of here we dont serve mushrooms"
"Why not" says the mushroom. "Im a fun guy"
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spendius
 
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Reply Mon 2 Apr, 2012 04:30 pm
Some do say that the future is with the mediocre. The teaching of evolution is ideal to delude the mediocre that they are all wunderkind especially with their teachers slipping them the answers or even correcting them.

And here we are. Look at the last few posts from the fans of teaching evolution. You can't get much more medifuckingocre than the last few posts.
 

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