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Latest Challenges to the Teaching of Evolution

 
 
izzythepush
 
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Reply Wed 8 Feb, 2012 06:13 am
@gungasnake,
Well if Fred Hoyle said it, it must be right. What with all those dimwits like Dawkins and Hawking saying otherwise.

Have you actually read anything by Hoyle? I once read The Black Cloud, for a science fiction writer he makes a great astrophysicist.
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farmerman
 
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Reply Wed 8 Feb, 2012 06:15 am
@gungasnake,
I wonder whether Hoyle, were he still alive, would do an about face on his silly pronouncements of the 70;s and 80;s. Now that weve seen what an organisms genome looks like and how the genome preserves major chunks of the genomes of "previous lives" whether he and his partner" Ramjanpookee" would still be deniers .
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rosborne979
 
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Reply Wed 8 Feb, 2012 06:15 am
@gungasnake,
gungasnake wrote:

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Neither does evolution.

BZZZZZZT!! WRONG ANSWER!!!
The math behind evolutionary process is not only probable but inevitable.

Anyone (including Hoyle) who says otherwise simply doesn't understand it at all.
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gungasnake
 
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Reply Wed 8 Feb, 2012 06:16 am
Modern mathematics versus evoloserism:

http://www.pathlights.com/ce_encyclopedia/Encyclopedia/20hist12.htm

farmerman
 
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Reply Wed 8 Feb, 2012 06:17 am
@gungasnake,
try biology rather than game theory
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gungasnake
 
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Reply Wed 8 Feb, 2012 06:18 am
Science Against Evolution:

http://scienceagainstevolution.org/
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rosborne979
 
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Reply Wed 8 Feb, 2012 06:19 am
@gungasnake,
gungasnake wrote:
Like I said, they don't understand it.
farmerman
 
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Reply Wed 8 Feb, 2012 06:39 am
@rosborne979,
Its that time of year when someone asks gunga for some evidence to support his "worldview". I can guarantee that, outside of a bunch of heavily used lists of "Quote mined" snippets, he will have nothing to offer. He is safe inhis belief just so long as he doesnt try to preach it in a science class of a public High SChool.

I wish Gunga would get some new stuff, hes lost his sinker
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spendius
 
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Reply Wed 8 Feb, 2012 06:42 am
@gungasnake,
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That's right, and the religion is definitely not Christianity. In order to have an apples/apples comparision, you'd need a religion which operated on an intellectual level similar to that of evolution.


There is no intellectual level comparable to evolution. Evolution does not involve the intellect. It is unconsciously involved with the vital bodily fluids and with the energising or excitability of cells.

That's why evolution is popular with anti-intellectuals. It requires no thinking. Just as gravity requires no thinking.
spendius
 
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Reply Wed 8 Feb, 2012 07:00 am
@spendius,
It is an abiding characteristic of anti-intellectuals that they consider any position they don't agree with as "silly" and those who promote opposing viewpoints as not "understanding" anything.
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gungasnake
 
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Reply Wed 8 Feb, 2012 08:20 am
http://infohemp.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/Jah-rastafari.gif

The other thing you have to like about Rastafari (at least compared to evoloserism and evolosers) is that Rastafari does not preach the idea of your neighbor being a meat byproduct of stochastic processes; nobody ever fought a world war over Rastafari or any sort of a doctrine based on Rastafari.
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gungasnake
 
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Reply Wed 8 Feb, 2012 08:24 am
One more thing... If Rastafari were to be brought into the public schools, it would fit admirably into certain kinds of team teaching situations. In other words, a biology teacher looking for a way to put 25 teenagers into the right frame of mind for indoctrination into something as stupid as evoloserism/evolution could simply walk across the hall to the Rasta class for a box of spliffs...
izzythepush
 
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Reply Wed 8 Feb, 2012 08:31 am
@gungasnake,
One other thing, I don't normally vote posts down, but that last one of yours hurt my eyes.
farmerman
 
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Reply Wed 8 Feb, 2012 10:00 am
@izzythepush,
In my younger years I spent good money to see **** like that
gungasnake
 
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Reply Wed 8 Feb, 2012 10:29 am
@farmerman,
I don't think LSD ever actually lowered IQ the way evoloserism does...
spendius
 
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Reply Wed 8 Feb, 2012 10:39 am
@gungasnake,
Evoloserism can't lower IQ gunga because it can't recognise IQ. And it is restricted in sexual activity to mating seasons. That's why evolosers are grumpy.
farmerman
 
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Reply Wed 8 Feb, 2012 11:53 am
@gungasnake,
enough of the small talk guna, when are you ever going to present some real evidence for your present "beliefs" . Id love to have a real discussion rather than read your sappy childish nyah nyahs.
Youve never ever presented anything substantive, know that? so how can you even have a position worthy of decent debate ?


still waiting after all these years
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gungasnake
 
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Reply Wed 8 Feb, 2012 11:53 am
@spendius,
It (evoloserism) has to at least lower the victim's normal immunity to brain-dead ideas in the same sense that murdering people gets easier after the first time you do it. I.E. believing in one or two really dog-stupid doctrines has to leave the victim more susceptible to the next such thing that comes along.
farmerman
 
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Reply Wed 8 Feb, 2012 12:02 pm
@gungasnake,
I cant see how you proudly proclaim your utter ignorance and stupidity of much of science and still function in a wordl of information. DO you just keep your head up your ass where it is warm and dark? or what.
spendius
 
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Reply Wed 8 Feb, 2012 02:06 pm
@farmerman,
What does "still function in a world of information" mean?

How does one not function in whatever world one is in?

On past form, using gunga's notion of bad habits getting easier and easier with practice, we can safely take it that to function is to function as you do. Roughly.

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utter ignorance and stupidity of much of science....


And what does that mean as well?

You use this format as a lady of a certain age uses her dressing table.

You're even ignorant on what this debate is all about. Or pretending to be.
 

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