Latest Challenges to the Teaching of Evolution

Good riposte. Do you stay up all night writing this, or are you just an extremely early riser? By the way it's fathers day over here, I'm due a card and a cake when my daughter decides to get up. It's nearly midday, and still no sign.

Well, it's only just after seven of the a.m. persuasion in North Amer-i-kay, which is not terribly early to my thinking. I usually arise between four and five in the morning.

Do you mean there is still no sign of your anticipated goodies, or of your daughter? Today is the birthday of The Girl, so i'll have other things to think about.

In order to give readers of this thread a respite from witterings I thought it might amuse them to read a short segment from A Popular History of the Reformation by Mgr Philip Hughes of, I assume, Notre Dame de Lac, Indiana.

It sets out more carefully than usual the important aspects of the "straw man" in order that those who employ the device, consciously or otherwise, might meditate upon the matter more than the evidence suggests that they do.



And the caricature of religion which anti-IDers have erected, here, as well as in higher academic circles, even peer-reviewed ones, is such that everything they say or write upon the subject is one giant straw man so large that it couldn't be removed from a barn which had doors of sufficient width for the anti-IDer to get his head through. And that's some barn door.

But I strongly recommend this book, not only because of how beautifully written it is, but also because it might help those who still retain a semblence of an open mind to get some inkling of what they are talking about before they hold forth in that very predictable, and so easily recognised, "voice of the gonads" tone which has been imaged on many occasions as a wolf howling at the moon which is the fundamental subtext of the Reformation from the beginning and through our own times.

Yah got it wrong again Spendy... this is more to the point.

But I strongly recommend Alice in wonderland book, not only because of how beautifully written it is, but also because it might help those who still retain a semblence of an open mind to get some inkling of what they are talking about before they hold forth in that very predictable, and so easily recognised, "voice of the gonads" tone which has been imaged on many occasions as a wolf howling at the moon which is the fundamental subtext of the Reformation from the beginning and through our own times.

Thats the spirit ! Keep hope alive ! One day you will be able to afford your sex change, and you will be a man !

Perhaps you will be kind enough to explain what I got wrong tf. You make no point until you do so what with assertions being devoid of meaning according to the scientific method which I adhere to with a ruthlessness most people find discomfitting.

I can't say I recommend Alice mind you. It's a bit like somebody playing in the attic with an elaborate train set. It's too precious for my taste. Introverted.

Springing the nuns from the convents is more like it.

Still nothing of substance to add to this discussion from our Aussie MRE eater. It appears that the drugs are working(Unless ANUS is just congenitally stupid).

Poor Gomer Geo... he doesnt have Tourettes Syndrome but is working hard to get it .

Gomer the turd must seek help...for alcoholism, low self esteem, delusions of grandeur, and the use of a spell checker (but not bi-polar disorder) .

The de-evolution of this thread has been a sad wonder to behold.

There hasn't been anything in the news lately, except stories about how all of the Miss USA contestants, except two, have no understanding of evolution.

I can agree with that.

That's homopomorphic wande. If they explained what they knew about evolution they would get thrown off the show which I presume is a family affair. You're confusing understanding what you lot think about evolution, which isn't very much, with evolution itself which these fine ladies understand instinctively. The other two are obviously tamed.

Did you see my post about how the Creationists used the 2010 Geological Society Annual Field trips to gain credibility?
They "hosted" several field trips to present aspects of the Grand CAnyon that theyve always used to harp on about how the CAnyon was a product pof the Global Flood. While they kept silent DURING the field trips so that they wouldnt get mobbed, AFTER the field trips were over, the Institute of C Sci began posting **** on their websites about how the GSA now "Respects" their worldview. Nothing could be farther from the truth.

Good item. I read that. I hope that others post items that I may have missed. I have been focusing on how individual states have tried to legislate science education. I am also waiting to see if a court case arises from Louisiana's science education act.

Have any of you seen the latest report from Mars? They are claiming that life forms have been found in geologic samples.

Right here on earth we found out our genome is infected with alien genes that somehow jumped the silicon barrier - but they're just earth-based mycoplasma bacteria, not aliens from Mars. I don't know how this virtual infection might affect DNA-based drug development or human evolution.
http://www.technologyreview.com/blog/arxiv/26921/?ref=rss

HS, Thanks for that clarification. I just jumped on a recent news report without looking deeply into it.

There have been a number of "vis plastica" type pseudo fossils that were foto's from the Rover Cameras while they were tripping about on MArs. I dont know about any "real fossils"
One of our A2K members is convinced that some of the mineral striations and assemblages from meteorites are actually biotic material. You can search under the name "bewildered" He has lots of photomicrographs that are, in my estimation, non compelling as evidence .
I wont ay any more . You just have to read for yourself

What I would like to know is what effect some idiotic creationist heretics, Louisiana's trouble making agitators, the Stop Press from Mars and the slack reports on genome research is intended to have on the Christian teachings on sexual morality. The undermining of those teachings is the objective of these pop-eyed pronouncements by amateurs in all four fields.

The genome is a dynamic entity. What is studied is a freeze-frame picture of the flux, an irreducible complexity, as if to stop a movie at some point, whether chosen or otherwise, provides much insight on what preceeded it and what followed it.

What mystifies me is how a country where pre-marital chastity is considered a form of insanity, divorce is at 50%, artificial birth control is a massive industry, homosexuality is a style choice, sex aids of some considerable range of operative efficiency are sold on campuses and abortion is officially approved, is not 95% atheist and not a place any Pope would dare venture on an official visit.

Can you lot explain how these wierd and wonderful ideas you dredge up are so ineffective and seemingly destined to remain so. That you enjoy shouting into the hurricane is the only explanation I can think of.

Your total post is nonsense. Now, try some logic and common sense.