Latest Challenges to the Teaching of Evolution

I thought Chelsea Pensioners got a discount.

I think CI is at the stage where he would have to be boiled . Throw in a rock with him . Boil until the rock is soft . Throw away CI and eat the rock .

Stupid historical ignorance on spendi's part. In EUrope, WHEN THE CHRISTIANS Were in "political majority" non Christians were burnt and cooked and disemboweled and drqwn and fit into iron maidens.

Dont need to try to single out a non christian culture.

Witches werent burnt for being non-religious...they were burnt because the secular authorities didnt like them . Every town the Inquisition went to they first saw the civil authorities to find out who the witches were .

look deeper dipshit

Are you saying that it was atheist burning atheist? Cool I never heard that one before!

No, YOU look deeper dipshit !

Are you saying you have been found guilty of child molestation ?

I'm not sure about which time you are referring at nor to which countries.

Heinrich Institoris and Jacob Sprenger were the only two inquisitors in what can be called Germany in the 15th century - referring to this period, because the papal bull "Summis desiderantes affectibus" (Desiring with supreme ardor) was kind of official start of the European witch hunt.

(The 'famous' Spanish Inquisition,btw, was opposed to any prosecution of witches.)

In the Spanish Inquisition, they burned any who had become Christians but who had then regressed to their old ways . Many Muslims and Jews were told to convert or leave . The area between witchcraft and heretics was grey . Their penalties were the same and the proof/evidence was very similar as was the punishment .

Many witches were burnt outside the Iberia because of mold on the grain that produced insanity . Many were burnt because they had healing knowledge . Most, and this is true in Spain as well, were burnt because the secular authorities wanted them burnt . It was hardly a case of inquisitors showing up and doing what ever they wanted . They always had permission from those in charge .

You hint at the Malleus Maleficarum . Most psychologists who read this do so to understand the suppressed homosexuality and stinted sexual expression in it . Burning someone for those reasons is hardly religious .

On the matter of burning, it was far more common for the "guilty" to be strangled with a cord whilst tied to the post . On a few occasions, they were burnt alive . It was also far more common to fine the person and to demand penance .

When the great plague of 1340 hit Europe, JEws were blamed ,(just for being JEws, not necessarily witches). They were tortured in many sorts of clever Christian ways including slowroasting.

You're fascinated with torture and child molestation aren't you fm.

Read Human Sacrifice by Nigel Davies. Get your bearings in the pre-Christian world. Archeological evidence of human sacrifice goes back 500,000 years. Now we don't have it except in milder forms such as Bradley Manning and Mike Tyson and Dominique Strauss Kahn. Although there was Ethel Rosenberg who was fried in your own age.

What do you think would have eradicated human sacrifice in the absence of Christianity. The Bible is the eradication text. And Rome wasn't built in a day. The urge for human sacrifice was in your face in the first court hearing of DSK who seems to have been arraigned on a finger pointing. And its Burning Man effigy substitute shows the atavistic trait remains alive in sections of well-heeled US society.

Heretics were enemies of the state at the time and the fate they met was a common one for criminals and suspects generally.

The Carthaginians were burning hundreds of children in giant wicker baskets to implore their gods to favour their material needs.

You're just having a self-indulgent flounce posited on your fans being ignorant and stupid and as eager as you to destroy the Christian religion and particularly its strictures on wanking, pre-marital sex, adultery, perversions, abortion, homosexuality and eugenics under scientific control. Why you are all so eager is a matter of conjecture.

I must admit to having engaged in the first four of those activities in my time but I would never think of trying to destroy Christianity to justify it. To do that would be a sign that my ego is completely out of control.

Read Davies and see the pre-Christian world in all its gory detail. In Asia, Africa, The Americas and Europe. Suttee was eradicated by Christians.

There are more tortured and murdered priests in totalitarian Eastern Europe right up to recent years than all the child molesters you can find. And dead Jesuit priests who were bringing Christianity to the tribes of the Americas on whose land you now lead your fat, complacent lifestyle. Many tortured to death over three days by women and children.

Not only that but child molesters might well have entered the Church to provide them with access to kids and faked their vocation. And that's assuming all the allegations are true and not being motivated by the syrup of compensation.

Aaaaaaaaah!!! He's never heard that before. Fancy that. There's plenty more you've never heard of before rl.

It was power brokers of any stamp burning enemies. Like with Ethel Rosenberg.

To encourage the others as Papa Doc said in French. "Pour encourager les autres."

Don't tell them that Walt. They live their lives on it being false.

I have a copy and I have read it. And I have decoded it. It has a key sentence buried withing its turgidities which is as clear as clear can be. It was a European survival document.

How unbalanced can a man get. As if that technique was a Christian invention.
Bloody hell fm. You really are emotional about this. Why don't you go nail your theses to a cathedral door?

It needn't be its invention, but they used it nevertheless. The Crusades and the Inquisition are good examples of christian killings and cruelty.

Spendius said,

What do you think would have eradicated human sacrifice in the absence of Christianity. The Bible is the eradication text.

I will answer by naming the new folk sensation starring Marvin Thwangleberry on lute and Mavis Gorilla on clarinet.

Pointless Twaddle. (Live at the Apollo. Tickets available now.)

When Agamemnon sacrifices his own child in the Iliad it is shocking. But it's meant to be shocking, it's not just shocking to us, it was shocking when Homer wrote it. I think the Iliad predates the Gospels. Still as Marvin himself would say. 'That's a girt blaart that.'

So what? It was the mores of the times. Everybody did that sort of thing. Always have. We don't exit barbarism overnight. It's a ridiculous argument you are trying desperately to make. In fact it's pathetic. You know nothing about it except the propaganda you have carefully selected to expose yourself to.

The world has moved on. Why don't you?

Modern health and welfare systems are good examples not only of Christian charity but of the means to deliver it. Modern aspects of cultural activity are good examples of Christian art. Modern science is a good example of Christian curiosity and exploration. Your own domestic arrangements are a good example of Christian sense.

Atheism is a dead end. There you are--the destination. Journey completed. There's nowhere else to go except promiscuity controlled by a bureaucracy which must be promiscuous itself. Hence the walls. The NCSE seems to have walls. I've never seen it answer any real questions. It just blows out its message and shuts everything else out.

They say people become more religious as they age because they are in fear of dying. They would say that wouldn't they? Silly sods like you lot. Then you can accuse them of fear. i.e. cowards.

It's much more likely to be learning more wisdom with time and experience. Not for you though eh? Y ou were wise in short pants and are just as wise now as you were then.

And those mores have not changed. Catholic priests with the blessing of Rome have raped and molested children by the thousands. They hid these crimes by moving priests to other locations. They destroyed many children's lives.