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Latest Challenges to the Teaching of Evolution

 
 
farmerman
 
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Reply Mon 18 Apr, 2011 03:51 pm
@cicerone imposter,
I know several "creationist" geologists who are mostly in environmental geology practices. They are ground water or landform specialists or soil scientists. I dont know any paleontologists who are Creationists although several again who are "theistic evolution guys".
Spendi just peddles what he feels is right and, in his mind, he agrees with himslef.
One of the reasons (among many) that hes so unable to gather any headway herein is (besides not giving a damn about the topic), he is unable to do any critical thinking himself. He arrives at a conclusion from no bases in fact and then makes up **** to defend it.

The only people who respond to his spiehl are those who already believe like he. Hes not able to make real creative arguments without resorting to irrelevant passages from Beowulf or clipping some "Capability Brown" speeches.
spendius
 
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Reply Mon 18 Apr, 2011 05:23 pm
@farmerman,
Brown wasn't called Capability for nothing.
farmerman
 
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Reply Mon 18 Apr, 2011 06:14 pm
@spendius,
well that is true. Thats where you and he differ.
spendius
 
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Reply Tue 19 Apr, 2011 08:23 am
@farmerman,
Oh--I'm not like him now am I not? You said I was. Just before.

My name isn't Brown either.
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farmerman
 
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Reply Tue 19 Apr, 2011 08:39 am
@farmerman,
Quote:
Hes not able to make real creative arguments without resorting to irrelevant passages from Beowulf or clipping some "Capability Brown" speeches.
. I can only respond to that last one with what I actually said. I never ever have,nor would, confuse you with Capability Brown (he actually was an accomplished albeit untrained landscape architect who got his hands dirty doing what ENgland didnt believe could be done by naturalizing the 19th century landscape of the UK). You, on the other hand just sit on your fat contrarian beer swilling unaccomplished ass and make believe that you know of what you speak and we should agree with you. As you can see from most of the responses (there are a few who find your patter "charming"), that people just think youre an old sot who likes to have the light cast upon him.
I dont think that Im telling you anything that you havent heard many many many many times before.

cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Tue 19 Apr, 2011 09:53 am
@farmerman,
All true; especially the part where he wants "lights cast upon himself."
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spendius
 
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Reply Tue 19 Apr, 2011 11:21 am
@farmerman,
To begin with fm you did conflate me with Cap. Brown.

Secondly he was an expert at denaturalizing the English landscape and not at all of naturalizing it as you say. His confections were highly artificial and only look natural to a sentimental, old, baldy headed, semi-obese twat such as yourself.

Emily Bronte does the English natural landscape best.

I am attempting a more difficult task. It is the psychic landscape I am interested in. Any fool with sufficient funds at his disposal could move earth around, plant trees in a seemingly random fashion and produce a living oil painting in the French windows with the Christian perspective built into it so that his master could satisfy his aesthetic and self-flattering taste for order. It's not unlike Dior frocks which, when naturalised, lie in a crumpled and unconsidered heap on the carpet beside the four poster.

I will agree that I have heard the sort of tripe you have written many times before. It is just one version, a very ordinary one at that, of a reflex of the release into your bloodstream of certain concentrations of adrenaline, noadrenaline, adrenochrome and serotonin and other more subtle chemicals at the sight of a spendipost. A Pavlovian response involving frustration and rage. Chill out man.
spendius
 
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Reply Tue 19 Apr, 2011 11:35 am
@farmerman,
Some wise poet said that beer--

"does more than Milton can
To justify God's ways to man."
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Tue 19 Apr, 2011 12:10 pm
@spendius,
Rather, god invented beer and wine to take away the pain he also created.
spendius
 
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Reply Tue 19 Apr, 2011 12:45 pm
@cicerone imposter,
I don't know about that ci. Maybe we create our own pain. The price of free will possibly.

Quote:
Why, be this Juice the growth of God, who dare
Blaspheme the twisted tendril as a Snare?
A Blessing, we should use it, should we not?
And if a Curse--why, then, Who set it there?
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farmerman
 
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Reply Tue 19 Apr, 2011 02:47 pm
@spendius,
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he was an expert at denaturalizing the English landscape and not at all of naturalizing it as you say.
Then you would disagree with the most learned opinions re: architecture and laqndscapery of England . Im not sure that you even know who capability was lest you forgot that it was he who really introduced "native" plant material in his layouts.

Im not surprised at your lack of contextual material.

PS, obviously I didnt "conflate " you and he. I accused you of clipping his words to sound even a wee bit scholarly. If you cant read thank your nuns.
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farmerman
 
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Reply Tue 19 Apr, 2011 02:49 pm
@spendius,
Quote:
Some wise poet said that beer--

"does more than Milton can
To justify God's ways to man."
Youve proved my point above. Not a creative thought in there thats yours.
reasoning logic
 
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Reply Tue 19 Apr, 2011 03:49 pm
@farmerman,
Did you not find it creative of Spendius to suggest that the poet was wise, Even though it may seem as complete bs to many?

Can this type of thinking be created or does it just evolve into more bs?

farmerman
 
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Reply Tue 19 Apr, 2011 04:07 pm
@reasoning logic,
not really
spendius
 
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Reply Tue 19 Apr, 2011 04:16 pm
@farmerman,
You said CB "naturalized" the landscape and he did the precise opposite. End of story. Bluster notwithstanding.
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reasoning logic
 
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Reply Tue 19 Apr, 2011 04:51 pm
@farmerman,
Really? You really do not think that spendius made it up {created it}, that the poet was wise?

Do you think that someone else came to that conclusion and Spendius copied what he heard?
I am sure that it is possible but in my opinion Spendius has the ability to create all sorts of ideas. I may not agree with them all but I do have to say that he is not lacking in the area of creativity!

Now if you are referring to his logical reasoning then I would have to say you may be onto something because he seems to get it wrong at times just like I do!
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Tue 19 Apr, 2011 04:54 pm
@reasoning logic,
rl, Creativity is spendi's number one strength, but he falls apart at all other levels of discourse. I enjoy reading his prose, but I skip over about 85% of them, because it goes into tangents not related to the subject under discussion.
spendius
 
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Reply Tue 19 Apr, 2011 05:03 pm
@reasoning logic,
We all know that neurology is on the march rl and you have informed us that you are presently in the lower ranks presumably with hopes of rising into more rewarding and stimulating positions.

What I would like to know is whether your future expertise in this area of suggestibility and the lowering of psychological resistance is to be in the service of reducing the manifestations of mental illness or in that of a future dictator in her upcoming battle against freedom.

Have your officers yet introduced you to the tachistoscope?
spendius
 
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Reply Tue 19 Apr, 2011 05:17 pm
@cicerone imposter,
That's what you think ci. For what that's worth. Which is very little.

When are you going to remove your very stupid Einstein quote? If he did say that I imagine it was in a moment of frustration which he must have later regretted. You do him a singular disservice by constantly reminding us of it.
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Tue 19 Apr, 2011 05:18 pm
@spendius,
I know, spendi. My posts on a2k has very little value - to people like you!
 

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