Latest Challenges to the Teaching of Evolution

wow, I think I missed that. That is a topper, even for him.

So Lincoln got the Confederates to fire on the Union first. Just for his cover up. DAYUM.

I also recall that he said that the US Civil war was not a civil war , I guess because the south seceded first before starting the gunfire

The Chattanooga Times-Free Press is owned by WEHCO Media, Inc. It is unusual in that it has a liberal and a conservative editorial staff publishing side by side.

Which side is your quote from wande?

Close . . . but no cee-gar. State troops in Florida seized Federal facilities and attacked (but were driven off from) Forts McRae and Barrancas before the state had passed an ordinance of secession. Not that one would expect Anus to know that level of detail of events.

Impressive, no? Lincoln is one of the smartest politicians who ever played the game. He was naïve in some respects--he appointed Cameron from Pennsylvania to be Secretary of War (payback for delivering the state to Linconl), and could hardly believe that he was stealing from the Federal government as fast as he could. Senator Fessenden of Maine, who had been Lincoln's closest friend when they were both in the House, told him about it at a public reception, and Lincoln, astounded, said: "Surely, you're not saying Secretary Cameron would steal?" To which Fessenden replied: "Well, he wouldn't steal a red-hot stove." Confronted, again in public, by Cameron, Fessenden riposted: "I'm sorry i said that you wouldn't steal a red-hot stove."

Course, in early Jan 1861 "the STar of the West" was fired on from Confederate Batteries in Charleston HArbor so that too was an actual "first shot".

I forgot that we are missing the sesquicentennai, of the Civil War. Its gonna be over before we can monitor it. You oughta start a Civil War thread as we approach April (sorta as the officially recognized start day)

Most papers here in Florida have Liberal and Conservative editorials on the same page.

I found the 3 comments by Tennessee residents hilarious:

What a load of self-serving fanny that is. See dozens of my posts for explanation. The whole thing is completely circular posited upon the assertion "dishonest bullshitters" being true. In actual fact, whoever the dishonest bullshitters are supposed to be, they compete in a free market and their customers freely choose their services.

And fm, as a principle or chair, heaven help us, is going to tell the teachers what to teach. It's his Jesuit streak rearing up in his consciousness again. Notice the "make". Top down diktats from the Commissar.

As for "critical thinking" one only need look at his use of Ignore and his failure to address any of the serious points I make.

He won't tell us if he wants religion abolishing. He won't comment on whether teaching evolution is a wedge for the promotion of atheism and behaviourism. All he can come up with is meaningless waffle such as the above quote. An amateur deconstructionist would shred it. A psychiatrist would humour it. It's nonsense. It starts with an "if" for Gawd's sake. It imagines critical thinking is the same as mentioning the phrase.

And what else is there outside of real world environments? To claim anything else is to claim fm's idea of the real world is the only real world. And still we have the President signing off his speech the other night with "God bless you all. God bless America". That, I presume is not of the real world.

Don't ever collide with fm's car at an intersection. If insurance companies could predict who fm was going to collide with they would increase the poor sod's premiums by at least a factor of 10 because he would have no chance in a court case.

'K . . . you may need to remind me. It was big shakes in the 1950s as the centennial approached. There doesn't seem to be the same fervor this time around.

well we missed Ft Mcree, the firing on "The TSar..." So weve got Ft SUmter comin up . Hell its already April tomorrow.

What I am about to share with you is not in any way meant to put anyone down but only to poke a little fun and share with you all what I would consider to be logic!

With all of that aside I think that I may found someone that would be very much like Spendius if Spendius was younger and became an atheist!
It is only a point of view Spendius so please keep in check that my statement was not reality only an observation that could always be wrong!

Please keep in mind that I do not agree with this mans mores but he does seem to have something to share in the field of logic!

http://www.youtube.com/user/CultOfDusty#p/u/8/FoBptNeBizg

I would like to see all of those who would thumb this down and are not too chicken **** to respond to this! "Please respond if you are going to thumb it down so we can all see what you are made of!


http://www.youtube.com/user/CultOfDusty#p/u/47/ZFeEumPAF0s

Your self esteem is based on evidence you don't possess due to you having it on Ignore.

The largest amount of evidence that ever existed to prove one point is that the culture with our form of creationism, and latterly ID, not only found a way of penetrating every corner of the globe, which flies can't do, using the social system those beliefs engendered out of nothing but also found when it got there various types of primitive populations which had used other forms of beliefs, never atheism--that must be a serious evolutionary no-no seeing as how easy it is to think up when there's no need to graft a theology onto it, as a hermit hasn't, say, or a monkey --and the only essential scientific difference between the given conditions for all was the Christian religion. And wherever it penetrated has adopted many of its ways such as having national grids of electricity, gas and water and a clean and efficient way of removing the **** from large cities without anyone noticing apart from those low paid members of the workforce whose task it is to achieve the effect and without whom the city wouldn't even be possible. Some of them have thermo-nuclear devices and if you look at the T-shirts many of them can be seen wearing, when they appear for our weighty considerations on CBS NEWS or FOX, there is often an image on the front or back which is unthinkable if what was conjured out of the nothing of The Great Fairy Tale had not been miraculously produced.

So the way I see it is this--anti-IDers are unaware of the miracle they are living in. Their egos have blotted out the miracle in order to garner some of the credit for themselves with little else but mindless wittering, for which some of them get paid ten or more times what the ****-shifters get, except for when they call for another plate of food or insist others get out of their way as football has taught them to do.

And the silly sods are so bent on creating a world of silly soddery that they hand out free confetti educational certificates, a Ponzi scheme, as they define education, not quite as obvious as the cliched bridge or swamp or even the extra 3% return, in order to expand silly soddery into the zones of the IQ range where the average person resides, with, I presume, the ultimate aim of making silly soddery normal so that they won't stand out so clearly as they do now and there will be no-one left whose dignity will not be offended by having to shift the ****. They will have to take turns or let the **** pile up. In the UK they are known as the Chattering Class. They take things very seriously you know. They are paying a fortune to "educate" their kids to take advantage of their peers and the ones who will take advantage of their peers will do so whether there are schools or not. There are millions of them, and growing, as more and more people get these confetti certificates, which they frequently mention, one assumes aggressively, because they are thought to lend extra dignity to a person, as do other things which I won't refer to in order to keep this post brief.

They don't think there was a miracle. It's not evidence. Not real evidence in the real world like how fast chiclid's blood clots or the flagella's pulsations being like those in your carburettor. That's real evidence for the silly-soddery brigade. Or when the earth is drilled with "at your fingertips technology, and a mile of core is brought to the surface, laid out, it's different sections labelled with big long words and everybody goes "whooooah!! ain't he a ******* genius?

Well-there was a miracle. I know it's a bit humbling and all but there it is. Proper evidence. Irrefutable. No argument. Your whole life is but a branch on that tree. Darwin's ridiculous tree could be just as easily upside down. On his own argument mosquitoes and locusts are miles more successful than mankind.

Spendis crap was so much better said in that "And then a mirqacle occurs" cartoon. For some reason its out of my cache.

YA cant show that one too much when shpendi starts typing out his ass.

Two dimensional I should think. On an ironing board I mean. Just like the screen you saw them on. What they do fm is flatter you with hocus-pocus about you being special seeing 3D images and, lo and behold, they look 3D to you.

I should think that what it would look like on a T-shirt being worn is subject to Einstein's Relativity principles.

I know what I'm made of rl. I'm not bothered about you seeing what it is. It's no skin of my nose whether you see it or you don't.

I can be explicit about "step two" when the company is man enough to take it but my empathy and consideration for the fragile personas of those who are not man enough to take it often leads me to allow such easy and low wit to pass by with no more than a slightly raised eyebrow.

Absolute bullshit you lying sack of **** . You cant even remember if you have had five bottles or six each night, how clouded would your memory be from that long ago . As usual you change the subject, declare yourself the winner and hope no one noticed the spin .

Do you actually believe a single word of that crap you posted ? You have more problems than alcoholism, my sour little friend .

Bullshit . That is one helluva drinking problem you have there . Tell us again how only americans (USA, Canada, Brazil, Argentina, Peru, Mexico, Caribbean, etc citizens must know more than anyone anywhere about the Civil War . Because they live there . So the fish in the Pacific must know more about the Battle for the Pacific than anyone . After all, they live there .

Now you tell us you are an expert in geo, art, history, nuclear medicine, nuclear accidents, biology, evolution, theology, philosophy, politics, biology, sociology, psychology etc . All this from a failed geo who has to fail students to make himself feel good .

Hahahahahahahaaa!!! You are funny.....That clown knows nothing but you like him because he lets you insult him . I thought one of your claims to fame was you are an historian ? Then you should be able to recognise his googling and cutting and psting, something he has admitted himself but says he has to know what to google so he is actually very clever by his standards .

We have discussed your racism before . You have a chip on your shoulder .

You mean all the self righteous white trash who think they have an education and want to feel good about themselves whilst doing nothing in reality that improves anything . I dont know if I want to stand with them . You on the other hand need all the drinking friends you can get .

THAT was the position you were in....nice projecting there....

Are you all full of bottled courage again ?

Gomer the Turd must seek help