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spendius
 
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Reply Tue 15 Mar, 2011 03:15 pm
@cicerone imposter,
That wasn't wit. There's a definition of wit in Boswell's Life of Johnson. The Marx Brothers were very tedious.

Laurel and Hardy had wit. Mine's more like their's. Which is beyond you because you daren't let it be otherwise. J.K Galbraith had a fair wit on him. Veblen was a star. Dazzlingly bright.
Ionus
 
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Reply Tue 15 Mar, 2011 04:21 pm
@cicerone imposter,
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All excerpts that are biased towards creationism.
You have never seen excerpts biased towards evolution ?

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They must all be christians
MUST ?

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There is evolutionary evidence through DNA, biochemistry, biology, any other diverse areas of study.
If you think evolution has sewn up all the loose ends and has no gaps you are either uninformed on the matter or are delusional.
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Tue 15 Mar, 2011 04:26 pm
@Ionus,
Evolution doesn't need bias, because they are based on facts.
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Ionus
 
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Reply Tue 15 Mar, 2011 04:26 pm
@farmerman,
Anyone who ever quotes a statement that you disagree with, including stupid utterances made by you, is guilty of quote mining . Therefore you can go back to having your head up your arse and ignore .

Anyone who does not have the same opinion as you is obviously to be ridiculed, as only you, just like God, have the truth . BULLSHIT . You are not a scientist, You are a naughty little boy with a chip on your shoulder .
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Tue 15 Mar, 2011 04:27 pm
@spendius,
You're not even close to what we call slapstick. You're really a bore who thinks you're an intellectual with much reading behind your waist.
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spendius
 
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Reply Tue 15 Mar, 2011 04:29 pm
@cicerone imposter,
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The Charles Darwin Research Center at the Galapagos Islands see evidence of evolution on a regular basis.


It's a theme park for tourists who have more money than sense.

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There is evolutionary evidence through DNA, biochemistry, biology, any other diverse areas of study.


I hope nobody has the temerity to ask you to explain this evidence. You're on a word magic trip again. Drop the words and --hey presto--you're a scientist and you know what the kids need: all the lot of them.

reasoning logic
 
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Reply Tue 15 Mar, 2011 04:31 pm
@Ionus,
I think that he for the most part would have the same answers as you, so why are you on the defense? At times you seem as a theist!
Ionus
 
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Reply Tue 15 Mar, 2011 04:43 pm
@spendius,
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That's babyish. And talk about hackneyed. It's first division hackneyed. You're floundering and hoping viewers here are too stupid to notice.
And thats why we like him . His belligerent stupidity does more for our side by him opposing us then we could possibly achieve without him .
Ionus
 
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Reply Tue 15 Mar, 2011 04:44 pm
@plainoldme,
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And what are your scientific credentials?
On an anonymous forum that question means what exactly, seeing you have already decided to quote mine just like FM as to who you will believe and not believe .
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Tue 15 Mar, 2011 04:45 pm
@spendius,
spendi wrote,
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It's a theme park for tourists who have more money than sense.


That's only because you are so ignorant.

From Wiki.
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Charles Darwin Research Station
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The Charles Darwin Research Station (CDRS) is a biological research station operated by the Charles Darwin Foundation. It is located in Puerto Ayora on Santa Cruz Island in the Galapagos Islands, with satellite offices on Isabela and San Cristóbal islands.
[edit] Background

In Puerto Ayora, Santa Cruz Island, Ecuadorian and foreign scientists work constantly on research and projects for conservation of the Galapagos terrestrial and marine ecosystems. The Charles Darwin Research Station, established in 1964, has a Natural History Interpretation Centre and also carries out educational projects in support of conservation of the Galápagos Islands.
[edit] Objectives and work
Tortoises at the Charles Darwin Research Station

The objectives of the CDRS is to conduct scientific research and environmental education for conservation. The Station has a team of over a hundred scientists, educators, volunteers, research students and support staff from all over the world.

Scientific research and monitoring projects are conducted at the CDRS in conjunction and cooperation with its chief partner, the Galapagos National Park Service (GNPS), which functions as the principal government authority in charge of conservation and natural resource issues in the Galapagos.

The work of the CDRS has as its main objectives:

* To promote, facilitate, design, and implement the scientific investigation necessary for the understanding of biological principles, better understanding of ecosystems, and adequate management of the islands’ natural resources.
* To advise the Ecuadorian authorities on the subject of conservation and management of natural resources in the Galapagos Islands.
* To collaborate with Ecuadorian institutions on the implementation of programs involved in scientific investigation and education on the islands.
* To contribute to the development of scientific and technical personnel from Ecuador who are specialized in natural sciences and natural resource management.
* To contribute and collaborate on educational programs related to the conservation of the islands.
* To compile the results of the scientific investigations and the other activities of the organization and to disseminate this information regionally, nationally, and internationally.

In 2002, the Station was awarded the International Cosmos Prize.
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Tue 15 Mar, 2011 04:48 pm
@spendius,
spendi, If you don't bother to do the research yourself, you'll remain ignorant. There are many resources on the internet that you can access without any monetary cost to you. But, most of us already know, you would prefer to remain ignorant about evolution.
Ionus
 
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Reply Tue 15 Mar, 2011 04:54 pm
@gungasnake,
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Walking on two legs is not that big a deal

They've changed their mind on that . Remember those "science" exhibitions where they demonstrated evolution as occurring gradually, with various human ancestors becoming more erect over millions of years ? They now think it happened very suddenly . They were all wrong .

They now also depict a relatively hairless Neanderthal Man compared to the ape they used to depict . They have no idea of whether they were hairy or hairless, or the shape of their nose and lips, the amount of fat they had etc....yet they guess away for the sake of "science"...people pay money to see those things .

FM's answer is of course they were all wrong, but now we are all right . Till the next advance in science, which will not be brought about by any of these closed mind clowns .
Ionus
 
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Reply Tue 15 Mar, 2011 05:01 pm
@reasoning logic,
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At times you seem as a theist!
Because spendi has a very strong point in his argument and I am not easily impressed by anyone's argument . For sound psychological reasons we have a strong history of religious values contributing to society . Anyone who says they dont believe in God has been talking to the wrong people . It is not a simple decision . It is ingrained in people to make a faith based decision either way . Both sides freely condemn the other without any real understanding of the others position .

If given a choice, I would rather live in a religious society than an atheistic one . In the meantime, I live in one that is increasingly atheistic and that should worry everyone, in the same way an inquisition announcement should worry everyone .
gungasnake
 
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Reply Tue 15 Mar, 2011 05:21 pm
@Ionus,
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They must all be christians


The biggest group of people not buying into evoloserism is probably mathematicians and not Christians. Some (naive) people believe evolution is compatible with Christianity; everybody knows it isn't compatible with modern mathematics and probability theory.
reasoning logic
 
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Reply Tue 15 Mar, 2011 05:21 pm
@Ionus,
I do respect you and Spendius even though we do not see eye to eye! I prefer truth, Not that I hold a empirical understanding of truth, "because I do know empirical that I do not. That is about how far I take my empirical-ism!

I hope the best for the two of you but I will have to point out as others may! "When someone speaks empirical about things that can not be proven they should be questioned.

Should I not be questioned being that I may be the least among you great thinkers? I would hope so!
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reasoning logic
 
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Reply Tue 15 Mar, 2011 05:40 pm
@gungasnake,
gungasnake wrote:

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They must all be christians


The biggest group of people not buying into evoloserism is probably mathematicians and not Christians. Some (naive) people believe evolution is compatible with Christianity; everybody knows it isn't compatible with modern mathematics and probability theory.




Could this be because they have very little knowledge of molecular biology?

If I were to speak out about physics, knowing as little as I do. " Should I be considered as if I know what I am talking about?
farmerman
 
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Reply Tue 15 Mar, 2011 05:46 pm
@reasoning logic,
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The biggest group of people not buying into evoloserism is probably mathematicians and not Christians
What a crock of pellets. As if status and training in mathematics confers an automatic knowledge of biology or paleontology. I challenge gunga snork to provide the basis that statement. (

cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Tue 15 Mar, 2011 05:49 pm
@farmerman,
These people make me laugh! They think any skill they think have some level of intellectual acuity has knowledge in all subjects.

Where did they learn logic?
spendius
 
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Reply Tue 15 Mar, 2011 06:00 pm
@Ionus,
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And thats why we like him . His belligerent stupidity does more for our side by him opposing us then we could possibly achieve without him


I've told them that rather obvious fact a few times Io. I sometimes suspect that Dawkins is a Fundie from the lengths he goes to to link evolution with assholery.

Have you heard the latest? The Japanese authorities were told two years ago that the crackerjack nuclear plant was fucked and they put it on Ignore.
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spendius
 
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Reply Tue 15 Mar, 2011 06:06 pm
@cicerone imposter,
Well ci. I do think that if you are going to pile **** up you should pile it high. And that post is a respectable attempt considering the obvious limitations of the writer.

The "Cosmos Prize" is a bit grandiose don't you think. Where do they hold the presentation ceremony?
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