Latest Challenges to the Teaching of Evolution

Don't depend on it.

he will, no doubt, try to come back with a rejoinder that will be written to assert that "of course he got it all along, its just that he sees the descent into national atheism with such a bag of rights".

I put im back on ignore, hes as bad as Goldman(just as wacky too)

I asked a specific question and you failed to answer it. It was a yes or no job and your nipsy twittered. You're a rocking chair philosopher. Your flannel doesn't kid me.

I don't trust one inch anybody who uses Ignore. It's the polar opposite of critical thinking and academic freedom. It represents a shut down of the intellectual faculties. It's frit.

You may be onto something Spendius! Ps. I do not believe I am saying this!

Farmerman I found a video about evolution among many other things and I do know that you know more than I do about evolution and I was hoping that you would tell me if you think this man has it correct!

He starts talking about evolution 4 minutes 40 seconds into his video! I do wish that you and others would comment on this video from start to finish. Thanks for any replies.

But spendi, don't be harsh...it is all they have....they either ignore or have to be self critical.....to them, the choice is obvious. Why look for something if you don't want to find it ?

How does that shut down intellectual faculties when the Ignored poster posts mostly bull **** with no critical thinking involved? It seems that is the epitome of critical thinking; to shut out bull **** that says nothing. It saves time, and time is money.

If there was such a thing as absolute truth I would have to agree with you and I do to some extent!

I do have to admit in my opinion that both the wise man and the fool both share the same basic concept of wisdom, "that is they both think to themselves that if someone speaks of things that are relative to their frame of reference it must be wise because they agree with it! I am sure that I could have this wrong so please help me to understand the truth and the reality that I may not be seeing!

Wow I really missed that one up let me try it again!

Farmerman I found a video about evolution among many other things and I do know that you know more than I do about evolution and I was hoping that you would tell me if you think this man has it correct!

He starts talking about evolution 4 minutes 40 seconds into his video! I do wish that you and others would comment on this video from start to finish. Thanks for any replies.

http://www.youtube.com/user/laroucheyouth#p/u/5/_MPcoRS7Gtc

ARE YOU PRETENDING TO BE A MORON ? The whole definition of bullshit is dependent on what you are capable of handling. Of course you don't like opinions that are different. Thats the whole bloody point !!!

Unless you read it dickhead, how will you know ? You are NOT a critical thinker. That involves considering a different point of view.

Then your ignorance must have made you a billionaire before you left your teens.

It saves time, and time is money.

And so it is. Defining bullshit and the absence of critical thinking and then using the definitions as an excuse to use Ignore is a species of Ignore.

The interesting subject is the study of the patterns of what is put on Ignore by all the methods useful for doing that. The psychoanalytical tool "resistance analysis" is used to probe those patterns for meaning because the patient will try, often desperately, to hide them. This often leads to patients rejecting the analyst and leaving treatment. Sulking in effect.

The principle is simple--get somebody mad and a raw nerve has been exposed to view. The child runs to Mom and the adult runs to the safety of mantras he or she is familiar with.

The most beneficial reason for joining a forum like this is to have your conclusions tested in an open market. Closing any part of that market off must mean that there is some other reason for being on A2K. Just as at Dover, where the relevant aspects of a dispute about education were closed off, there must have been some other reason for the case. Money being the prime suspect for the cynics and pride for the naive.

Had the plaintiffs, and their counsel, any evidence that what they proposed would benefit the kids, the schools and the USA which is what the educational system is for. Chiclids, flagella, fossils etc were forms of Ignore. Time is money for counsel. The longer they talk the more money is removed from taxpayer's pockets. It was magic really. And, like with conjurers and shamens, the (court) rituals are designed to distract.

All that is on Ignore because nobody likes to face up to having been taken to the cleaners by smart operators.

IS he again complaining about being put on ignore ? It is amusing that the only folks to complain and who try to come up with some silly reason for why they shouldnt be ignored are those who are ignored. The system is quite democratic because it affords me the same freedom FROM idiotic thinking as it offers him the freedom to post such thought-free responses. I just dont have to participate in it. I gave him several years to come up with something relevant and original and he failed the honest requests. I can play with his head at my leisure now. Hes fully exposed to us what hes made of and its really shallow stuff. Nuff said

People engaged in glossolallia do the same. It doesnt mean we have to stand around and give em an audience. Most of us have a seven yer history with this clown. Hes failed in the logic department continuously. He attempts to engage with format rather than substance and I refuse to engage in the garbage that his posts entail. They are vapid, predictable, incorrect , vastly ill informed (cf his continuous misinterpretations of US constitutional law that governs this subject) , and hes mean spirited with anyone with an opinion. I argue with people I dislike and with others whose belief in a subject are passionate and even though at odds with them, I afford them opportunity to persuade me (several have). This guy has tried , by evading the topic, to pursue tangents that are irrelevant .
When you give a guy seven years of this type of argument, my only response is "Why did I spend so long being polite with him"?

It is amusing that the only folks to complain and who try to come up with some silly reason for why they shouldn't be called niggers are those who are niggers.

Not much changes in your neck of the woods, do they ?

I stuck with the video to about 15 minutes and found nothing to disagree with.(The fact that it is Lyndon Larouche, I will assume a "Punch line" occurs somehwere down the road)
The speaker summarizes how much science looks at evolution as a non-random process. This fellas explanation was good, his speaking style isnt meant to hold ones attention though.
I wish he wouldnt keep referring back to LArouches "ideas" as central to some economic theopry that can be based upon evolutionary theory. That starts sounding a bit despotic.

I don't give a flying **** who puts me on Ignore. I'm pointing out that they are hurting themselves by snuggling up in the safety of a self-made comfort cocoon. And that they have disqualified themselves from the debate because it can't be a debate they want but a mere platform with a one-way megaphone.



More crocheted and self complacent assertions. Freedom from idiotic thinking (an assertion) can be had from the idiocy. We all know fm doesn't have to participate in it. In fact I would be glad if he didn't. He makes A2K look ridiculous as a grown up forum.

The viewers will decide for themselves what my failures are and what I'm made of. The fact that fm thinks they need his instruction is sufficient to tell viewers what he thinks of them.

Polite my arse. Seven years of insults is polite is it?

Anybody who doesn't think that fm's last two posts here are complete, self-serving rubbish has been seriously let down by the educational system.

Note the striking absence of even an attempt to deal with my posts. He can't. So it's bluster, bombast, insult and innuendo to the rescue.

spendi, Before you can accuse others of "self-serving rubbish," you need to learn a little about logic and self-introspection.

Don't try giving me lessons when you use a term like "self-introspection". Never having done any of that yourself it's understandable that you don't know what it means.

I must admit to being unable to do anti-IDer's logic which, after thousands of examples, seems to be that if an anti-IDer blurts something out it is true on the evidence that an anti-IDer blurted it. Any contrary view renders the anti-ID post meaningless gibberish. And I take a contrary view.