Latest Challenges to the Teaching of Evolution

Setanta.
Should of added that you get to end up like a tic in a box ( like Spendioses )

It's better than being a skidmark tf.

Yes I do agree, I learned about the skidmark effect in my church as well!

Some people will never learn of this type of intellect unless they are brought up in the kind of church that you and I were brought up in! Dont you agree Spendius?

It's a matter of orders of magnitude. Btw, I recalculated the volume of water in the Mediterranean basin adjusted for approximate evaporation in then prevailing climatic conditions and now came up with only several hundred thousand years to fill it up with the giant waterfall spillover from the Atlantic, not millions of years - that's assuming the rocky formations on each side of the Gates of Hercules occupied then approximately the same spots as they do now. Speeding up the process by 3 powers of 10 still doesn't bring it into human lifetime scales - but it must have been quite a spectacle while it lasted. It's analogous - at the other end of the time scale - to visualizing the pico- and femto- seconds involved in a thermonuclear explosion. Adjust for scale to detect the sheer awesome magic of the process

Can you show us the formula you used? LOL

How can there be a formula when it was "magic"?

When he said "calculated the volume of water...," I assumed he did so by some mathematical formula.

I think HS is a lady ci.

She gave a volume, I think, relying on it being believed by the incantationary nature of the printed word.

gender on a2k is difficult to keep up with.

What you said was perfectly correct, CI - look at any contract, right at the start it says "he" will be used for "he or she", so don't mind Spendius. You want equations for thermonuclear explosions? There's one in my signature line - you've known me all those years and never once noticed it!

HS, I worked with thermonuclear weapons in the US Air Force in the late fifties, but didn't know the mathematical equations for it. We saw lot'sa training films with explosions, but none in any of the testing done during that period.

BTW, I met the scientist who designed the aerodynamics on nuclear weapons that I worked with on a Mexico cruise several years ago, Robert Brodsky. We still keep in touch.

Wouldnt that be the Pillars of Hercules ? Originally it was mountains in Greece that held up the heavens, then it was islands in the Med, then it was Mountains in Africa, then it was the Straights of Gibralter....fairly mobile for something that holds up the sky.

Ah, yes, mathemagical.....based on the number of extinct species life does not exist correct to two decimal places.

You are right - looked it up in the Greek dictionary, which says "columns" or "pillars", not "gates". My recollection was from a much later meaning ("pillars" as "portals") used by the Spanish empire to show the Gibraltar passage as their gateway to the great ocean beyond.


But I don't think any humans were sailing the Mediterranean when it was still in the process of getting filled from Gibraltar's giant waterfall. Crete has been an island for 6 million years, so I guess that was the most recent time the "gates" opened. Farmerman would know for sure.

CI, if you know Stan Brodsky, ask him for equations - he's got tons of them, and they all come with pretty pictures
http://www.slac.stanford.edu/th/lectures/ANLSeminar14April09B_1.pdf

Edit: very sorry missed the first name of the designer you mentioned - the physicist I cited is someone else, no idea if they're related.

This is getting us rather far from evolution (sorry Wandel) but do you have any idea who took this photograph? It's the actual second of the Nagasaki explosion; the fireball is still expanding. The 3 people in the foreground haven't heard or felt it yet; the photographer was standing in the street. I've no idea if any of them survived: http://picdit.wordpress.com/2008/07/21/8-insane-nuclear-explosions/

What's the anti-IDer's view of the election results? Will they affect the challenges to teaching evolution in schools?

No need to apologize to me. As a thread author, I am like Coolidge or Eisenhower.

I did - but should have looked it up first. I was wrong - the whole Mediterranean basin filled up in a few months!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zanclean_flood

More corrections - Crete and all other islands became islands at that point, not before. Sorry. P.S. Thanks for patience, Wandel

???You are DEAD ????