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usa can invade countries, russia cant?

 
 
OGIONIK
 
Reply Thu 28 Aug, 2008 12:34 am
Our country is borderline retarded.the usa deserves anything it gets. I hate hypocrisy. Do we think russia is really gonna listen? hello, usa helping israel, usa invading iraq and afghanistan?

gg.

maybe after another country begins bombing us we will learn.

as they say, people only respect fear.
 
dlowan
 
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Reply Thu 28 Aug, 2008 01:05 am
@OGIONIK,
Quote:
usa can invade countries, russia cant?



Pretty much.

Only it all balances out...it's the opposite in Russia... Wink
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msolga
 
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Reply Thu 28 Aug, 2008 02:15 am
@OGIONIK,
You've gotta understand this, Ogionik: sometimes invaders are "war criminals", other times they're "liberators". Depends on who is holding the power at the time.
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McGentrix
 
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Reply Thu 28 Aug, 2008 06:58 am
Depends on the reasons.
McTag
 
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Reply Thu 28 Aug, 2008 07:26 am
@McGentrix,

The reasons depend on which way the wind's blowing, if recent experience is a guide.
OGIONIK
 
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Reply Thu 28 Aug, 2008 07:30 am
@McTag,
i think the united states in general has am inflated ego, mainly due to the fact theres really never been a war fought on our soil, except against ourselves.

we are simply waiting for someone to invade us , maybe it would be a good thing, for our citizens, especially the ignorant ones, to experience firsthand what war is about.

can you imagine say chinese tanks in la? russian forces in new york? we wouldnt know what to do..

well, hopefully we dont experience it, but damn.... its like were asking for it, who made us the boss of the world?
McTag
 
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Reply Thu 28 Aug, 2008 07:34 am
@OGIONIK,

Smile I couldn't possibly comment. I'll leave that one for McGentrix.
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cjhsa
 
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Reply Thu 28 Aug, 2008 08:43 am
@OGIONIK,
The difference is we took the time to go before the UN and at least try to make our case - for years.

Russia just drank a little too much Vodka one night and decided in a drunken rage to go beat someone up.

Big difference.
JTT
 
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Reply Thu 28 Aug, 2008 10:17 am
@cjhsa,
Quote:
The difference is we took the time to go before the UN and at least try to make our case - for years.

Russia just drank a little too much Vodka one night and decided in a drunken rage to go beat someone up.


You're either delusional or your tendency to mendaciousness is unparallaled.

Woiyo9
 
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Reply Thu 28 Aug, 2008 01:27 pm
@JTT,
Why? Besides the possiblity that someone might not have been drunk, what is incorrect about CJ's post?
old europe
 
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Reply Thu 28 Aug, 2008 01:40 pm
@Woiyo9,
That that's no difference. Russia took the time to go before the UN and tried to make its case, too.

Just because you didn't notice doesn't mean it didn't happen.
OGIONIK
 
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Reply Thu 28 Aug, 2008 06:17 pm
@old europe,
obama will solve some of usa's problems i hope.


mccain? if u are voting mccain u need your head checked, becase he obviously does.
Rockhead
 
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Reply Thu 28 Aug, 2008 06:20 pm
@OGIONIK,
Onion, you may have inadvertently started a politics thred with the lions on the other side...

Watch yer ass, kiddo.
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RexRed
 
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Reply Thu 28 Aug, 2008 06:30 pm
@OGIONIK,
Quote:
maybe after another country begins bombing us we will learn


.http://www.nocaptionneeded.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/09/wtc-9-11.jpg

Maybe
OGIONIK
 
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Reply Thu 28 Aug, 2008 11:04 pm
@RexRed,
yeah, because al queda is a country.

mccain is senile, or a retard.

how can you not remember how many houses you own? that alone renders him totally out of the question for president of the united states.

why is every word out of his mouth "i was a POW.."

obama is CLEARLY superior. experience aside, id rather have some speck of intelligence than him...

ron paul is cool too, but doesnt have the firepower obama does.
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McTag
 
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Reply Fri 29 Aug, 2008 02:24 am
@RexRed,

Which country bombed the twin towers, Rex?
Ramafuchs
 
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Reply Fri 29 Aug, 2008 05:41 am
@OGIONIK,
But what is clear is that America's unipolar moment has passed - and the new world order heralded by Bush's father in the dying days of the Soviet Union in 1991 is no more. The days when one power was able to bestride the globe like a colossus, enforcing its will in every continent, challenged only by popular movements for national independence and isolated "rogue states", are now over. For nearly two decades, while Russia sunk into "catastroika" and China built an economic powerhouse, the US has exercised unprecedented and unaccountable global power, arrogating to itself and its allies the right to invade and occupy other countries, untroubled by international law or institutions, sucking ever more states into the orbit of its voracious military alliance.

Now, pumped up with petrodollars, Russia has called a halt to this relentless expansion and demonstrated that the US writ doesn't run in every backyard. And although it has been a regional, not a global, challenge, this object lesson in the new limits of American power has already been absorbed from central Asia to Latin America.

In Georgia itself, both Medvedev's recognition of Abkhazia and South Ossetia's independence and Russia's destruction of Georgian military capacity have been designed to leave no room for doubt that the issue of the enclaves' reintegration has been closed.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2008/aug/28/russia.usforeignpolicy

There can be no hope of a peaceful planet with the US so belligerent.

AT THE end of the Cold War the United States was supreme and unchallenged, Russia was in decay, poor, disorganised, with ill-equipped military forces. At that time, many people believed the 21st century might have been the time for the human race to advance issues of decency, to establish a more permanent, international peace and really to see that relations between states would be governed by law and not by power. Instead, we have a period of tragic and serious mistakes, a period of prejudice and of refusal to learn from history.

America's leadership was critical to the establishment of the United Nations and to the establishment of a rules-based international system that would outlaw war unless necessary for self defence or sanctioned by the Security Council.

After the end of the Cold War, America could have done so much to continue the advance to an even more effective, rules-based system where law governed relations between states. Instead, today's America has pushed these high aspirations and noble principles aside and led us, step by step, to a point of crisis.

What went wrong?

After the Cold War, the neo-conservatives sought to cement American supremacy. Their underlying philosophy was to enshrine American power throughout this century and beyond, to recast the rest of the world in America's image, if necessary by force of arms.
http://www.theage.com.au/opinion/america-has-lost-its-way-in-the-world-20080828-44zk.html?page=1

It would have been possible for the American operation in Iraq to succeed, if it had taken the route that would benefit Iraq and had not considered occupying it and creating a policy of security confusion. There is significant psychological tension between Iraqis and the United States, and it is not easily erased from the Iraqis’ memory
http://watchingamerica.com/News/4723/american-policy-and-the-iraqi-issue/

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oralloy
 
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Reply Sun 31 Aug, 2008 03:25 pm
@OGIONIK,
"OGIONIK" wrote:
I hate hypocrisy. Do we think russia is really gonna listen? hello, usa helping israel, usa invading iraq and afghanistan?


Hypocrisy? The invasion of Afghanistan is a just war of self defense -- remember 9/11?

Israel is our friend, and they are surrounded by evil countries that attack them. Nothing wrong with us helping them survive.

Iraq? It is true that our invasion of Iraq was just as illegal as Russia's invasion of Georgia. But there is a bit of a difference between "trying to topple a Middle Eastern dictatorship and set up a democracy" and "trying to topple a European democracy and set up a dictatorship".



"OGIONIK" wrote:
maybe after another country begins bombing us we will learn.


We should exterminate anyone who tries to bomb us.
oralloy
 
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Reply Sun 31 Aug, 2008 03:29 pm
@McTag,
"McTag" wrote:
Which country bombed the twin towers,


Afghanistan.

That is why NATO invoked their mutual defense clause and is helping us there.
McTag
 
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Reply Sun 31 Aug, 2008 03:33 pm

oralloy wrote:

We should exterminate anyone who tries to bomb us.


What about the countries you have bombed, since 1960 say? (there are many)
Should they exterminate you?
 

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