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Reply Mon 21 Jul, 2008 07:38 pm
He is the second-tallest man.

Is hyphen needed? Is the phrase correct?

Many thanks.
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Setanta
 
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Reply Mon 21 Jul, 2008 08:00 pm
The phrase is correct . . . the hyphen is not correct.
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McTag
 
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Reply Tue 22 Jul, 2008 04:08 am
Not for the first time, I find myself in fraternal disagreement with the learned Setanta.

Smile

Firstborn, first-born and first born (to take another example) may make my objection plainer.

I cannot articulate it in exact terminology, but I think it is something to do with the words being combined into a compound adjective. They work together to convey their meaning.
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McTag
 
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Reply Tue 22 Jul, 2008 01:01 pm
How about well-beloved? Best-known?

Spurn not the simple hyphen, that least-appreciated device.
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ehBeth
 
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Reply Tue 22 Jul, 2008 01:17 pm
McTag wrote:
How about well-beloved? Best-known?

Spurn not the simple hyphen, that least-appreciated device.




(see my post on the other thread about the 16,000 hyphens recently murdered by one of the Oxford dictionaries)
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DrewDad
 
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Reply Tue 22 Jul, 2008 01:23 pm
http://essayinfo.com/sguides/hyphen.php

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To avoid ambiguity, use hyphens to link words in compound adjectives (or compound modifiers) before nouns. If you can insert and between the modifying words before a noun and make sense of the new construction, you do not have a compound adjective: And would make sense in a sunny, warm day; sunny, warm is not a compound modifier. But and would not work in a well-rounded employee; well-rounded is a compound modifier. Another test: If your sentence would make sense if you reversed the order of the modifying words or even eliminated one of them, don't connect the words with a hyphen.



"Second-tallest man" is correct.
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