Should Susan Atkins Go Free; She is Dying

I am curious as to WHAT Susan desires to get on the outside.

Freedom is not available to her, if she cannot sit up in bed.

Y has she taken the trouble to ask for it ?

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Not to die in captivity?

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Rockhead wrote:

Not to die in captivity?

That question makes more sense
for a prisoner who is in ordinary health,
rather than for one who cannot sit up in bed.

WHAT 's the difference ?????????

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In other words,
if she is too sick to sit up in bed,
then if she is evicted from the prison,
she still does not have the blessing of liberty.

an exercise in futility

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Susan is approximately dead already.

I 'm perplexed that she cares about leaving the prison
in this condition, but if she does: enuf is enuf with the vengeance.
A death sentence is being inflicted upon her.

Keeping her there against her will does no one any good.

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Mame wrote:

The taxpayers will pay the same, regardless of whether she's in a prison or a hospital - actually, more if it's a hospital, I suspect.

I think you're making assumptions from the Canadian Medicare system. I don't know what the terms are with Medi-Cal, but i suspect that even in California, the state would pay nothing like the amount of the cost of care which would be paid in Canada. In many states in the United States, they would pay next to nothing. If Atkins were released, the odds are that much and perhaps most of the burden of the cost of her care would fall on the shoulders of her family.

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OmSigDAVID wrote:

Keeping her there against her will does no one any good.

Keeping people against their will is the POINT of jail... Laughing

( I understand you though.. )

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I 'm perplexed that she cares about leaving the prison
in this condition,

It is the idea of getting one over on the system.
Ultimately getting the last word, proving someone wrong.. etc.

At least that is what i get from it..

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shewolfnm wrote:

OmSigDAVID wrote:

Keeping her there against her will does no one any good.

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Keeping people against their will is the POINT of jail...
( I understand you though.. )

Government was created to facilitate vengeance
and to repel invasions. We already DID the vengeance thing.
She appears to be more dead than alive.
It approaches being grotesque to need to take the very last drop of blood.
Will we be better off if we take what is left of her DIRECTLY to the cemetary ?
I remember going to Sharon Tate movies, but I did not know her well enuf
to have an opinion of whether she 'd want to take the very last minute
of Susan's life in prison.

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I 'm perplexed that she cares about leaving the prison
in this condition,

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It is the idea of getting one over on the system.
Ultimately getting the last word, proving someone wrong.. etc.

At least that is what i get from it..

It seems to me
that giving a prisoner freedom (the word is a nasty JOKE in this circumstance)
under these conditions is an indignity upon her.
It surprizes me that she desires it; like yearning for one of the bones
King Henry VIII threw over his shoulder to his dogs, from his banquet table.

If the prisoner gets it as an act of mercy,
a triviality for which she begged,
that is not getting the last word, proving someone wrong.
It IS ultimate.

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Just looking at the responses, I conclude, but for a few exceptions, the people who want to let her go home are those who did not live through the Manson era. I think that you would have had to live in that time to really understand the horror and the sadism that had been perpetrated by that bunch.

She got a life sentence, which was too good for her, considering what she did. She escaped the death penalty, on account of a technicality. I see no reason to let her go home.

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I certainly lived thru that era.
I was never afraid of Charlie Manson.

She has expressed a desire to go home, for some strange reason.

Enuf is enuf with the vengeance; we DID that already.

I am very surprized that her family is willing to accept
the financial responsibility of her care.

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(Unless Arthur intervenes) the chances r
that thay will run the clock out on her.

Thay will wait until she is dead to decide whether to let her out early.

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kickycan wrote:

I don't know if they should or shouldn't let her go, but really, how much difference is it going to make to anyone whether she spends 38 years in prison, or 37 and a half?

It's a big deal to those who lost their loved ones.

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Phoenix32890 wrote:

Just looking at the responses, I conclude, but for a few exceptions, the people who want to let her go home are those who did not live through the Manson era. I think that you would have had to live in that time to really understand the horror and the sadism that had been perpetrated by that bunch.

She got a life sentence, which was too good for her, considering what she did. She escaped the death penalty, on account of a technicality. I see no reason to let her go home.

I didn't live through it but I completely agree she should die in prison.

I've read and learned enough about the murders to know she is a sociopath. She has not repented. Nor will she ever.

Her sentence was life without parole. Parole should not be granted just because she is dying.

It's like flipping off the justice system. Well, your sentence, sir....it's solid unless a, b or c happens. Then we'll talk.

How do you think families of the murdered victims feel or would feel about this?

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Manson Murders

Take a look at this and then tell me she should leave one second early.

WARNING: EXTREMELY GRAPHIC (crime scene photos)

Also, scroll down to see her mug shot. Does that look like the face of someone who could ever show remorse for what she did?

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Bella Dea wrote:

Phoenix32890 wrote:
How do you think families of the murdered victims feel or would feel about this?

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Phoenix32890 wrote:

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Just looking at the responses, I conclude, but for a few exceptions,
the people who want to let her go home
are those who did not live through

the Manson era.

Thru out my life,
I have been a fervent supporter of vengeance & retribution.
I have really considered it: THE RIGHT THING TO DO.

I exulted on this day in 1953,
when Julius & Ethel Rosenberg were electrocuted, 55 years ago today.
Thay sure deserved worse.

The moral of the story is:
little Charlie Manson does not deserve his own era.
U can recognize the Stalin Era, the Hitler Era, the Kennedy Era, the Castro Era (maybe),
but a little pipsqueak like Charlie does not deserve his own era.

Apparently, that little dumpster-diver had a little bit of charisma
like Hitler & the Kennedys, enuf to influence the ladies
and a few other destitute (almost) children out in the desert of California,
but that 's all he had then and that 's all he has now.

He does not deserve an era, all his own.

So attesteth

David

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Bella Dea wrote:

kickycan wrote:
I don't know if they should or shouldn't let her go,
but really, how much difference is it going to make to anyone
whether she spends 38 years in prison, or 37 and a half?

It's a big deal to those who lost their loved ones.

Do u know that for a FACT ?

It cud be possible that thay feel that way.

TELL US that u consulted them.

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OmSigDAVID wrote:

Bella Dea wrote:
kickycan wrote:
I don't know if they should or shouldn't let her go,
but really, how much difference is it going to make to anyone
whether she spends 38 years in prison, or 37 and a half?

It's a big deal to those who lost their loved ones.

Do u know that for a FACT ?

It cud be possible that thay feel that way.

TELL US that u consulted them.

You're joking, right?

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Bella Dea wrote:

OmSigDAVID wrote:
Bella Dea wrote:
kickycan wrote:
I don't know if they should or shouldn't let her go,
but really, how much difference is it going to make to anyone
whether she spends 38 years in prison, or 37 and a half?

It's a big deal to those who lost their loved ones.

Do u know that for a FACT ?

It cud be possible that thay feel that way.

TELL US that u consulted them.

You're joking, right?

Yes,
but I still think it wud be an error to give Charle his own era.

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eoe wrote:

Bella Dea wrote:
Phoenix32890 wrote:
How do you think families of the murdered victims feel or would feel about this?

how is the fact that she's older and is dying mean justice? that happened to Sister Teresa.

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