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George Bush's Legacy

 
 
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Wed 23 Jul, 2008 03:46 pm
Rama, The conservatives still think Bush is doing a good job at the helm; they are immune to the disaster that surrounds them. It's a mystery of monumental proportions.
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okie
 
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Reply Wed 23 Jul, 2008 03:56 pm
Bad sign, ci, to use Rama as reinforcement or confirmation that you are right. I wouldn't resort to that if I were you, if you are looking for credibility.
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Ramafuchs
 
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Reply Wed 23 Jul, 2008 04:11 pm
Okie
There is nothing wrong to enliven the discussion by rarely using someone's name.
CI
As a person who is not going toget affected with the outcome of the American Election, I use to air my views with suitable cut and paste.
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Take it easy and correct me if I were wrong so that I can enrich my knowledge.
Regards
Rama
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Rick Rowe
 
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Reply Thu 24 Jul, 2008 06:56 pm
george bush's legacy
It seems to me that George Bush is this generation's Jimmy Carter in that he is totally ineffective and that he screws up most of the things that he tries to do. The only thing that I have seen that he has done intentionaly is to raise the price of gas. Other than that he has probably done as bad a job of any president we have had.
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Thu 24 Jul, 2008 07:14 pm
RR, The fact that Bush went to Iraq for the oil, he's done a yeoman's job of increasing fuel prices by over 300%. I don't think any president has ever been that successful!
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mysteryman
 
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Reply Thu 24 Jul, 2008 10:43 pm
cicerone imposter wrote:
RR, The fact that Bush went to Iraq for the oil, he's done a yeoman's job of increasing fuel prices by over 300%. I don't think any president has ever been that successful!


Then you have a short memory.
Do you not remember the gas rationing, the loooong lines to get gas, the double digit inflation, or the double digit unemployment of the Carter years?

And did you know that Carter was a Democrat?
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Thu 24 Jul, 2008 11:13 pm
Only in New Zealand: From USAToday.


New Zealand college students offer reward for arrest of Rice
Posted 1h 53m ago |


WELLINGTON, New Zealand (AP) ?- New Zealand students protesting the Iraq war offered a reward to anyone who carries out a citizen's arrest of Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice during her visit to the country Friday.

The Auckland University Students' Association is seeking Rice's arrest for her role in "overseeing the illegal invasion and continued occupation" of Iraq, Association President David Do said. The group is offering a $3,700 reward.
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mysteryman
 
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Reply Thu 24 Jul, 2008 11:27 pm
cicerone imposter wrote:
Only in New Zealand: From USAToday.


New Zealand college students offer reward for arrest of Rice
Posted 1h 53m ago |


WELLINGTON, New Zealand (AP) ?- New Zealand students protesting the Iraq war offered a reward to anyone who carries out a citizen's arrest of Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice during her visit to the country Friday.

The Auckland University Students' Association is seeking Rice's arrest for her role in "overseeing the illegal invasion and continued occupation" of Iraq, Association President David Do said. The group is offering a $3,700 reward.


That might just about cover the burial cost for anyone trying it.
Remember, the Secret Service protects her, as will the New Zealand authorities.
I dont think they will take to kindly to anyone trying it.
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mysteryman
 
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Reply Fri 25 Jul, 2008 08:23 am
cicerone imposter wrote:
Only in New Zealand: From USAToday.


New Zealand college students offer reward for arrest of Rice
Posted 1h 53m ago |


WELLINGTON, New Zealand (AP) ?- New Zealand students protesting the Iraq war offered a reward to anyone who carries out a citizen's arrest of Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice during her visit to the country Friday.

The Auckland University Students' Association is seeking Rice's arrest for her role in "overseeing the illegal invasion and continued occupation" of Iraq, Association President David Do said. The group is offering a $3,700 reward.


I guess this group isnt as serious as they want people to think, or they finally got the message...

http://www.stuff.co.nz/4631208a6160.html
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Auckland University Students' Association (AUSA) tonight retracted its $5000 reward for any student who makes a citizen's arrest of United States Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice.


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Earlier today Auckland police district commander Superintendent Brett England said anyone trying to carry out the arrest faced "very serious consequences".

"We are obliged to ensure the safety and security of the visiting guest and we will not shirk from that task," Mr England said.

"Operational planning for this visit has been in the making for several months and there are highly effective security measures in place.

"I would strongly advise the association representatives who've put this challenge out, to withdraw it immediately so as to avoid being caught up in something much bigger than they may have anticipated."


Why did they withdraw the reward?
If they are so sure of their position, they should have stuck to their guns and paid the reward.
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Ramafuchs
 
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Reply Fri 25 Jul, 2008 12:13 pm
mysteryman
Veteran Member your opinions are yours and not the opinionion of others.
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Ramafuchs
 
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Reply Fri 25 Jul, 2008 01:32 pm
Well, the deed is done. The world moves on. It's just too bad for Dale Leo Bishop that he was only involved in a single murder; if he had slaughtered a million people, like Barbour's good buddy, George W. Bush, no doubt he'd be a free man today.


http://www.chris-floyd.com/
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Ramafuchs
 
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Reply Fri 25 Jul, 2008 01:39 pm
Hitler has legacy but not Gandhi.
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Ramafuchs
 
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Reply Fri 25 Jul, 2008 01:45 pm
What is the origin of simulacra like the current President of the United States? When I argue that Bush is not "real," I do not mean that he was manufactured in a secret factory, owned by a corporation like the Karp Cartel and controlled by a powerful conspiracy. But I will speculate that in a post-literate, hyperreal world, those accretions of historical time and psychological reflection that produce subjectivity tend to disperse before they constitute a deep, coherent self. The result can be a personality like that of Bush -- intellectually narrow, emotionally shallow, working with an abridged vocabulary, like a novice in a foreign language class. He is a commodity produced by contemporary American culture, with its bizarre admixture of consumerism, television, worship of celebrities, and glib Christian fundamentalism. Other cultures in other periods have produced personalities limited in different ways -- the provincial peasant, for example, who has never been more than a mile from his birthplace. Unlike the peasant, the contemporary flat personality knows that other countries, other cultures, other religions exist -- but in his solipsism they remain "unreal" to him, mere delusions to which other people, themselves mere figments, display an irrational attachment....

http://www.ctheory.net/articles.aspx?id=427
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Ramafuchs
 
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Reply Fri 25 Jul, 2008 02:46 pm
**** Saddam. We're taking him out."
President George W. Bush

"We need common sense judges who understand that our rights are derived from God. Those are the kind of judges I intend to put on the bench."
President George W. Bush
June 27, 2002
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Ramafuchs
 
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Reply Fri 25 Jul, 2008 02:50 pm
"Iraq could decide on any given day to provide a biological or chemical weapon to a terrorist group or individual terrorists. Alliances with terrorists could allow the Iraqi regime to attack America without leaving any fingerprints."
President George W. Bush
Aug. 10, 2002


"Right now, Iraq is expanding and improving facilities that were used for the production of biological weapons."
President George W. Bush
Sept. 12, 2002
"The danger to our country is grave. The danger to our country is growing. The Iraqi regime possesses biological and chemical weapons. The Iraqi regime is building the facilities necessary to make more biological and chemical weapons. And according to the British government, the Iraqi regime could launch a biological or chemical attack in as little as 45 minutes after the order were given."
President George W. Bush
Sept. 26, 2002
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Ramafuchs
 
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Reply Fri 25 Jul, 2008 02:57 pm
"The danger to our country is grave. The danger to our country is growing. The Iraqi regime possesses biological and chemical weapons. The Iraqi regime is building the facilities necessary to make more biological and chemical weapons. And according to the British government, the Iraqi regime could launch a biological or chemical attack in as little as 45 minutes after the order were given."
President George W. Bush
Sept. 26, 2002


"The danger to America from the Iraqi regime is grave and growing. ... In defiance of pledges to the United Nations, Iraq has stockpiled biological and chemical weapons, and is rebuilding the facilities used to make more of those weapons. Saddam Hussein has used these weapons of death against innocent Iraqi people, and we have every reason to believe he will use them again."
President George W. Bush
Oct. 5, 2002


"Some worry that a change of leadership in Iraq could create instability and make the situation worse. The situation could hardly get worse, for world security and for the people of Iraq. ...America must not ignore the threat gathering against us. Facing clear evidence of peril, we cannot wait for the final proof ?- the smoking gun that could come in the form of a mushroom cloud."
President George W. Bush
Oct. 7, 2002
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Ramafuchs
 
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Reply Fri 25 Jul, 2008 03:01 pm
"The Iraqi regime is a grave threat to the United States. The Iraqi regime is a threat to any American and to threats who are friends of America."
President George W. Bush
Jan. 3, 2003

"The dictator of Iraq has got weapons of mass destruction. He has used weapons of mass destruction. He can't stand America and what we stand for. He can't stand our friends and allies. He's a dangerous, dangerous man with dangerous, dangerous weapons. And that's why the world came together at the United Nations Security Council and said, Mr. Saddam Hussein must disarm. The message was as clear as can possibly be delivered ?- Mr. Saddam Hussein must disarm. ... [But] Saddam Hussein is not disarming, like the world has told him he must do. He's a dangerous man, with dangerous weapons. He's a danger to America, and our friends and allies. And that's why the world has said, disarm."
President George W. Bush
Jan. 24, 2003


"Our intelligence officials estimate that Saddam Hussein had the materials to produce as much as 500 tons of sarin, mustard and VX nerve agent. In such quantities, these chemical agents could also kill untold thousands."
President George W. Bush
Jan. 28, 2003


"Evidence from intelligence sources, secret communications, and statements by people now in custody, reveal that Saddam Hussein aids and protects terrorists including members of al-Qaida."
President George W. Bush
Jan. 28, 2003
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Ramafuchs
 
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Reply Fri 25 Jul, 2008 03:04 pm
"Saddam Hussein is not disarming. This is a fact. It cannot be denied. Saddam Hussein has a long history of reckless aggression and terrible crimes. He possesses weapons of terror. He provides funding and training and safe haven to terrorists ?- terrorists who would willingly use weapons of mass destruction against America and other peace-loving countries. Saddam Hussein and his weapons are a direct threat to this country, to our people, and to all free people. If the world fails to confront the threat posed by the Iraqi regime, refusing to use force, even as a last resort, free nations would assume immense and unacceptable risks. The attacks of September the 11th, 2001 showed what the enemies of America did with four airplanes. We will not wait to see what terrorists or terrorist states could do with weapons of mass destruction."
President George W. Bush
March 6, 2003

"Our mission is clear, to disarm Iraq of weapons of mass destruction, to end Saddam Hussein's support for terrorism, and to free the Iraqi people."
President George W. Bush
March 22, 2003
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Ramafuchs
 
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Reply Fri 25 Jul, 2008 03:08 pm
"We are learning more as we interrogate or have discussions with Iraqi scientists and people within the Iraqi structure, that perhaps he destroyed some, perhaps he dispersed some. And so we will find them."
President George W. Bush
April 24, 2003


"Major combat operations in Iraq have ended. In the battle of Iraq, the United States and our allies have prevailed. ... The battle of Iraq is one victory in a war on terror that began on September the 11th, 2001 and still goes on. ... The liberation of Iraq is a crucial advance in the campaign against terror. We have removed an ally of Al Qaida and cut off a source of terrorist funding. And this much is certain: No terrorist network will gain weapons of mass destruction from the Iraqi regime, because the regime is no more."
President George W. Bush
May 1, 2003


"Saddam Hussein had weapons of mass destruction. ... We'll find them. And it's just going to be a matter of time to do so."
President George W. Bush
May 3, 2003
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Ramafuchs
 
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Reply Fri 25 Jul, 2008 03:12 pm
"We found the weapons of mass destruction. We found biological laboratories ... and we'll find more weapons as time goes on. But for those who say we haven't found the banned manufacturing devices or banned weapons, we found them."
President George W. Bush
May 30, 2003


"We've made sure Iraq is not going to serve as an arsenal for terrorist groups. ... We're on the look. We'll reveal the truth. But one thing is certain: no terrorist network will gain weapons of mass destruction from the Iraqi regime because the Iraqi regime is no more."
President George W. Bush
June 6, 2003


"This nation acted to a threat from the dictator of Iraq. Now, there are some who would like to rewrite history ?- revisionist historians is what I like to call them. Saddam Hussein was a threat to America and the free world in '91, in '98, in 2003. He continually ignored the demands of the free world, so the United States and friends and allies acted. And one thing is for certain ?- and this is for certain: Saddam Hussein is no longer a threat to the United States and our friends and allies."
President George W. Bush
June 16, 2003


"For more than a decade, Saddam Hussein went to great lengths to hide his weapons from the world. And in the regime's final days, documents and suspected weapons sites were looted and burned. Yet all who know the dictator's history agree that he possessed chemical and biological weapons and that he used chemical weapons in the past."
President George W. Bush
June 21, 2003


"There are some who feel like that conditions are such that they can attack us there [in Iraq]. My answer is: Bring them on. We have the force necessary to deal with the situation."
President George W. Bush
July 2, 2003
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