George Bush's Legacy

mysteryman wrote:

cicerone imposter wrote:
okie, You say that the congress is a total bust, but do you understand the reasons why? It'll be interesting to see what happens in November, when some terms for congress members must go for reelection - and I'm talking about the republican members.

There are indications already that many republicans will be replaced by democrats. Do you know why?

EVERY member of the House is up for re-election in Nov, not just the repubs.
It will also be interesting to see how many dems get replaced by repubs.

Okay, fair enough. Can you point out the incumbent Dems who seem to be in trouble, though? For I have been looking, and it is difficult to find them. All across the country, incumbent Dems are looking pretty good compared to their more endangered R counterparts.

Cycloptichorn

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Cycloptichorn wrote:

mysteryman wrote:
cicerone imposter wrote:
okie, You say that the congress is a total bust, but do you understand the reasons why? It'll be interesting to see what happens in November, when some terms for congress members must go for reelection - and I'm talking about the republican members.

There are indications already that many republicans will be replaced by democrats. Do you know why?

EVERY member of the House is up for re-election in Nov, not just the repubs.
It will also be interesting to see how many dems get replaced by repubs.

Okay, fair enough. Can you point out the incumbent Dems who seem to be in trouble, though? For I have been looking, and it is difficult to find them. All across the country, incumbent Dems are looking pretty good compared to their more endangered R counterparts.

Cycloptichorn

I havent paid attention to the house races.
I was simply correcting your statement about " some terms for congress members must go for reelection - and I'm talking about the republican members", when its actually ALL members, of the House anyway.

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Sure, cool.

Cycloptichorn

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17 Republican Politicians Will Not Run For Re-election In 2008 - GOP Running Scared! Is Democratic Tsunami Coming? - RI10
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posted Sunday, 11 November 2007

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Has that number increased since Nov 2007?

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Cycloptichorn wrote:

okie wrote:
There are more and more people that have found out they can vote for more entitlements, and that is becoming a huge problem, for which there are no easy solutions. Doesn't take a genius to figure it out.

What a relief

Cycloptichorn

Its a relief you can vote for more entitlements?

Typical Democrat.

Why am I not surprised?

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okie wrote:

Cycloptichorn wrote:
okie wrote:
There are more and more people that have found out they can vote for more entitlements, and that is becoming a huge problem, for which there are no easy solutions. Doesn't take a genius to figure it out.

What a relief

Cycloptichorn

Its a relief you can vote for more entitlements?

Typical Democrat.

Why am I not surprised?

I meant, it's a relief that it doesn't take a genius to figure the situation out...

Laughing

Cycloptichorn

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Revolution's coming. May the best prepared win.

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Cycloptichorn wrote:

okie wrote:
Cycloptichorn wrote:
okie wrote:
There are more and more people that have found out they can vote for more entitlements, and that is becoming a huge problem, for which there are no easy solutions. Doesn't take a genius to figure it out.

What a relief

Cycloptichorn

Its a relief you can vote for more entitlements?

Typical Democrat.

Why am I not surprised?

I meant, it's a relief that it doesn't take a genius to figure the situation out...

Cycloptichorn

I knew what you were trying to say.

But, then not many voters are geniuses, either that or they do actually know better but they just care more about their own welfare than they do the country's.

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So you think we should reelect Bush?

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rabel22 wrote:

So you think we should reelect Bush?

Well, with McCain, it's gonna be just like a third term for Bush. But it's gonna get scarier, because McCain is also senile.

When McCain commands the military to drop an a-bomb, it might be the wrong country.

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Understand I am not crazy about Obama because of his backtracking but to Mc Cain and Bush whats the difference between senile and stupid. It seems to have the same effect.

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rabel, A slight correction; McCain is stupid and senile. After all, McCain is ready to follow in the footsteps of the Bush doctrine. Stay 100 years in Iraq if necessary. Continue to threaten Iran, and maybe nuke Uzbekistan for being in the wrong location on the world map - a McCain screwup.

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okie wrote:

I thought a bit more balanced assessment besides that of joefromchicago is in order here, to provide more accuracy.

Except that I actually addressed the topic of the thread, whereas you ... not so much.

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cicerone imposter wrote:

rabel22 wrote:
So you think we should reelect Bush?

Well, with McCain, it's gonna be just like a third term for Bush. But it's gonna get scarier, because McCain is also senile.

When McCain commands the military to drop an a-bomb, it might be the wrong country.

Except that the President CANNOT, by himself or herself, order the military to use nukes.
There is whats called the "two man rule", that means that someone else must agree.
That person can be the VP, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs, or one of several other people.
The President cannot order nukes to be used whenever he wants to.

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Some safety net, mm. If the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs disagrees, he's history, as witness Eric Shinseki, who disagreed with Don Rumsfeld (Shinseki was right), and was soon out the door.

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http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=_4fko-UbdjU
Here is a new Bush video taken when he thought no one would be recording.

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http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=HTulVc5_nf8

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"I'm not going talk about what I did as a child. What I'm going to talk about and I'm going to say this consistently: It is irrelevant what I did 20 to 30 years ago. What's relevant is that I have learned from any mistakes that I made. I do not want to send signals to anybody that what Governor Bush did 30 years ago is cool to try."
Candidate for President George W. Bush
Feb. 3, 1999

"I am someone who is a uniter, not a divider. I don't believe in group thought, pitting one group of people against another."
Candidate for President George W. Bush
Nov. 22, 1999

"The administration I'll bring is a group of men and women who are focused on what's best for America, honest men and women, decent men and women, women who will see service to our country as a great privilege and who will not stain the house."
Candidate for President George W. Bush
Jan. 15, 2000

"When I was coming up, it was a dangerous world, and you knew exactly who they were. It was us vs them, and it was clear who them was. Today, we are not so sure who the they are, but we know they're there."
Candidate for President George W. Bush
Jan. 21, 2000

"By far, the vast majority of my tax cuts go to the bottom end of the spectrum."
Candidate for President George W. Bush
Feb. 15, 2000

you cannot lead America to a positive tomorrow with revenge on one's mind. Revenge is so incredibly negative."
Candidate for President George W. Bush
March 23, 2000

"This is a world that is much more uncertain than the past. In the past we were certain, we were certain it was us versus the Russians in the past. We were certain, and therefore we had huge nuclear arsenals aimed at each other to keep the peace. That's what we were certain of ... You see, even though it's an uncertain world, we're certain of some things. We're certain that even though the 'evil empire' may have passed, evil still remains. We're certain there are people that can't stand what America stands for ... We're certain there are madmen in this world, and there's terror, and there's missiles and I'm certain of this, too: I'm certain to maintain the peace, we better have a military of high morale, and I'm certain that under this [Clinton-Gore] administration, morale in the military is dangerously low."
Candidate for President George W. Bush
May 31, 2000

Some wise statements from the mouth of BUSH

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"A generation shaped by Vietnam must remember the lessons of Vietnam: When America uses force in the world, the cause must be just, the goal must be clear and the victory must be overwhelming."
Candidate for President George W. Bush
Aug. 3, 2000

"When I put my hand on the Bible that day in January 2001, I will swear ?- I will swear to uphold the laws of the land. But I will also swear to uphold the honor and the integrity of the office to which I have been elected, so help me God."
Candidate for President George W. Bush
Aug. 11, 2000

"In my administration, the Department of Veterans Affairs will act as an advocate for veterans seeking benefit claims, not as an adversary."
Candidate for President George W. Bush
Aug. 21, 2000

Those are the wonderful words.
But what has happened during his 8 years rule?

Iraq- a tragedy
Economy-- Dream turned into nightmare
Healthcare- Premiums rise and coverage falls
Workers- Working harder and falling behind
Katrina- an Epic failute
Education-- Promises broken.
After this kind of accievement who in the hell wish to think of his Legacy?

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A legacy of Death, Debt and Deceit. He's a real hero.

03/30/2008

One of my favorite shows on NPR, This American Life had a wonderful show on our fearful administration.

TAL 03-28-2008

Listening to the news tonight....heard that fearful leader threw the first pitch at the first game in the Nationals new stadium...greeted by more boos and jeers than cheers...guess they (fearful administration) could not control who (loyal supporters) came into the stadium. They have managed crowds that stupid has addressed during the last 7 years.

04/12/2008

A Harpers article on a poll of historians... here WORST PRESIDENT EVER!!!

Here is another link to the same story ... Here

Here are some of the comments that the historians furnished:

"No individual president can compare to the second Bush," wrote one. "Glib, contemptuous, ignorant, incurious, a dupe of anyone who humors his deluded belief in his heroic self, he has bankrupted the country with his disastrous war and his tax breaks for the rich, trampled on the Bill of Rights, appointed foxes in every henhouse, compounded the terrorist threat, turned a blind eye to torture and corruption and a looming ecological disaster, and squandered the rest of the world's goodwill. In short, no other president's faults have had so deleterious an effect on not only the country but the world at large."

"With his unprovoked and disastrous war of aggression in Iraq and his monstrous deficits, Bush has set this country on a course that will take decades to correct," said another historian. "When future historians look back to identify the moment at which the United States began to lose its position of world leadership, they will point?-rightly?-to the Bush presidency. Thanks to his policies, it is now easy to see America losing out to its competitors in any number of areas: China is rapidly becoming the manufacturing powerhouse of the next century, India the high tech and services leader, and Europe the region with the best quality of life."

WOW!!!!!

http://www.bushlegacy.org/

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