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If Hillary Tries to Push her Way on the Ticket, Obama Should

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Roxxxanne
 
Reply Tue 20 May, 2008 07:53 pm
I really feel that if she (they) wants on the ticket, politically, Obama will have no other choice but to say yes. But there are arguments that that will make him look weak etc...turning her down will make him look tough...the problem is turning her down would only further alienate her supporters and, even worse, a floor fight at the convention could be disastrous.
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Sglass
 
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Reply Tue 20 May, 2008 07:57 pm
He'll say yes, or she will say yes. They are two slick cookies.
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Bi-Polar Bear
 
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Reply Tue 20 May, 2008 08:31 pm
well it won't be the first time the vice president actually ran things behind the scenes..... there's recent precedent for it....
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H2O MAN
 
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Reply Tue 20 May, 2008 09:22 pm
Accommodate her wishes
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woiyo
 
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Reply Wed 21 May, 2008 06:05 am
Buy a bullet proof vest.
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H2O MAN
 
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Reply Wed 21 May, 2008 06:43 am
I now think Hillary will defeat Obama and go on to give McCain a run for his money.
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eoe
 
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Reply Wed 21 May, 2008 06:48 am
...he should tell her to kiss his hairy butt.
He/we will not be bullied!
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Bi-Polar Bear
 
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Reply Wed 21 May, 2008 06:59 am
bullied.... playground talk....you say we like you're part of this... Obama will do what's expedient for HIM... there's no WE.... don't flatter yourself....he's a politician who wants to win and that's that
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au1929
 
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Reply Wed 21 May, 2008 10:08 am
Obama's electability.
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snood
 
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Reply Wed 21 May, 2008 10:45 am
Hire a food taster
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au1929
 
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Reply Wed 21 May, 2008 10:54 am
Bully her way BS. Without her on the ticket, the bag of wind is unelectable. There are no baloney caucuses in the general election
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sozobe
 
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Reply Wed 21 May, 2008 10:57 am
Yeah, and it's not like Obama won any straight-up, non-caucus, REAL primaries...

Oh, wait...
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au1929
 
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Reply Wed 21 May, 2008 11:01 am
He did not win in most of the big populous states. Those needed to capture the presidency.
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Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Wed 21 May, 2008 11:16 am
au1929 wrote:
He did not win in most of the big populous states. Those needed to capture the presidency.


He will win all or nearly all of the 'big' states that Hillary won.

This is a stupid argument that Hillary supporters put forth. As if Obama isn't going to win, say, NY and CA. Of course he will...

Cycloptichorn
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woiyo
 
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Reply Wed 21 May, 2008 11:29 am
Cycloptichorn wrote:
au1929 wrote:
He did not win in most of the big populous states. Those needed to capture the presidency.


He will win all or nearly all of the 'big' states that Hillary won.

This is a stupid argument that Hillary supporters put forth. As if Obama isn't going to win, say, NY and CA. Of course he will...

Cycloptichorn


Join Obamas campaign and tell him that story. He does not need to campaign in those States because YOU say so.
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sozobe
 
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Reply Wed 21 May, 2008 11:34 am
Since I still have the Pollster window open from another thread:

CA:

Obama 50.7
McCain 41.8

NY:

Obama 50.2
McCain 38.8

And this is probably a low point for Obama. McCain's been free to campaign against Obama for a while now, while Obama's had to fend off both McCain and Hillary and is not the nominee yet.
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OCCOM BILL
 
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Reply Wed 21 May, 2008 11:41 am
sozobe wrote:
Since I still have the Pollster window open from another thread:

CA:

Obama 50.7
McCain 41.8

NY:

Obama 50.2
McCain 38.8

And this is probably a low point for Obama. McCain's been free to campaign against Obama for a while now, while Obama's had to fend off both McCain and Hillary and is not the nominee yet.
Word.

Only an idiot could buy the "He can't win the big states" argument. Scary how many of them there are.
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okie
 
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Reply Wed 21 May, 2008 12:42 pm
woiyo wrote:
Buy a bullet proof vest.


snood wrote:
Hire a food taster.


I will take the rare opportunity to agree with both woiyo and snood in the same post.
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Gala
 
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Reply Wed 21 May, 2008 12:59 pm
If he asks Clinton to join the ticket won't he be back-peddling on his commitment for change? During the heat of this primary he accused her and her sidekick, William, of being part of the same old Warshinktoon politics.
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Finn dAbuzz
 
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Reply Wed 21 May, 2008 09:51 pm
Gala wrote:
If he asks Clinton to join the ticket won't he be back-peddling on his commitment for change? During the heat of this primary he accused her and her sidekick, William, of being part of the same old Warshinktoon politics.


Of course he would be, but does anyone still really believe that he is an agent of so-called New Politics? If they do it's because their desires have trumped their reason.

I keep wondering why Hillary would want to be VP.

If Obama/Clinton wins in 2008 but bombs by 2012, VP Clinton will not be the logical successor. If Obam/Clinton stays in power for 2 terms, Hillary will be 68 for the 2016 election. Unless the Obama Administration has ushered in a new golden age in America, Hillary will not be a shoo in in 2016.

I'm left with the following:

Hillary as VP is closer to the presidency than Hillary who is not VP.

Wouldn't it just frost her ass if something happened to Obama and Bill Richardson became president?

Pretty damn creepy to be factoring assasination into one's plans.
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