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The Lionization Of Edward Kennedy

 
 
Finn dAbuzz
 
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Reply Mon 26 May, 2008 12:48 am
okie wrote:
Do you have information that they they are? I have assumed the issue has been purposely ignored so far, and so why would they come out with it now if they in fact are?


Sarcasm okie.

Of course they are not and will not.
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okie
 
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Reply Mon 26 May, 2008 01:03 am
Thats what I thought, Finn.

If the Republican was a smoker, the treatment of it by the media would be totally different.
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nimh
 
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Reply Mon 26 May, 2008 04:54 am
Finn dAbuzz wrote:
This brings up an obvious question. With all the efforts of people to ban smoking in public places, the concerns over second hand smoke, and so forth, and so forth, how come there isn't more of a ruckus being made over Obama's smoking habit? Many questions come to mind. Has he actually quit? For good? How can he be a good role model for young people? Has he caused other people's health to suffer by his habit? What does it say about his ability to make good decisions? Is the habit a sign of an addictive personality that may affect his decision making ability, etc.? How come we aren't seeing articles about this, in which all kinds of speculations and analysis are presented?

Because it would be foolish?

Remember, if the press would publish "all kinds of speculations and analysis" along these lines about a formerly smoking Republican politician, you would think it complete BS, and more evidence of how eager the media are to use any angle to shoot a Republican down.

okie wrote:
If the Republican was a smoker, the treatment of it by the media would be totally different.

Right... in that case you'll find it easy to mention an example of how the media spent this kind of wall-to-wall coverage of something similarly silly about the Republican presidential candidates.

Let's see, maybe the mainstream media have all presented at length all kinds of speculations and analysis about Cindy McCain's past medications abuse? No... wait, maybe Bush's former drinking problem was treated at length and in depth by the mainstream media -- you know, CNN, Newsweek, the WaPo, rather than the Daily Kos or Counterpunch -- as fodder for speculation and analysis about his possible inability to make decisions, his addictive personality and the bad example he set for the youth? Umm, no, that stuff's been limited to lefty blogs and forums... even his suspected former cocaine habit never really made it beyond blogs and columns. Maybe you're thinking of something else?
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Finn dAbuzz
 
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Reply Mon 26 May, 2008 08:53 pm
nimh wrote:
Finn dAbuzz wrote:
This brings up an obvious question. With all the efforts of people to ban smoking in public places, the concerns over second hand smoke, and so forth, and so forth, how come there isn't more of a ruckus being made over Obama's smoking habit? Many questions come to mind. Has he actually quit? For good? How can he be a good role model for young people? Has he caused other people's health to suffer by his habit? What does it say about his ability to make good decisions? Is the habit a sign of an addictive personality that may affect his decision making ability, etc.? How come we aren't seeing articles about this, in which all kinds of speculations and analysis are presented?

Because it would be foolish?

Remember, if the press would publish "all kinds of speculations and analysis" along these lines about a formerly smoking Republican politician, you would think it complete BS, and more evidence of how eager the media are to use any angle to shoot a Republican down.



okie, not finn, wrote:
This brings up an obvious question. With all the efforts of people to ban smoking in public places, the concerns over second hand smoke, and so forth, and so forth, how come there isn't more of a ruckus being made over Obama's smoking habit? Many questions come to mind. Has he actually quit? For good? How can he be a good role model for young people? Has he caused other people's health to suffer by his habit? What does it say about his ability to make good decisions? Is the habit a sign of an addictive personality that may affect his decision making ability, etc.? How come we aren't seeing articles about this, in which all kinds of speculations and analysis are presented?


Need to get your attributions right.
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nimh
 
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Reply Mon 26 May, 2008 09:28 pm
Sorry bout that. Quoted you quoting Okie, and deleted the wrong tags.
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okie
 
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Reply Thu 29 May, 2008 12:20 am
nimh wrote:
Finn dAbuzz wrote:
This brings up an obvious question. With all the efforts of people to ban smoking in public places, the concerns over second hand smoke, and so forth, and so forth, how come there isn't more of a ruckus being made over Obama's smoking habit? Many questions come to mind. Has he actually quit? For good? How can he be a good role model for young people? Has he caused other people's health to suffer by his habit? What does it say about his ability to make good decisions? Is the habit a sign of an addictive personality that may affect his decision making ability, etc.? How come we aren't seeing articles about this, in which all kinds of speculations and analysis are presented?

Because it would be foolish?

Remember, if the press would publish "all kinds of speculations and analysis" along these lines about a formerly smoking Republican politician, you would think it complete BS, and more evidence of how eager the media are to use any angle to shoot a Republican down.

okie wrote:
If the Republican was a smoker, the treatment of it by the media would be totally different.

Right... in that case you'll find it easy to mention an example of how the media spent this kind of wall-to-wall coverage of something similarly silly about the Republican presidential candidates.

Let's see, maybe the mainstream media have all presented at length all kinds of speculations and analysis about Cindy McCain's past medications abuse? No... wait, maybe Bush's former drinking problem was treated at length and in depth by the mainstream media -- you know, CNN, Newsweek, the WaPo, rather than the Daily Kos or Counterpunch -- as fodder for speculation and analysis about his possible inability to make decisions, his addictive personality and the bad example he set for the youth? Umm, no, that stuff's been limited to lefty blogs and forums... even his suspected former cocaine habit never really made it beyond blogs and columns. Maybe you're thinking of something else?


I wonder if you follow a different press than I do? You don't seem to remember the lies about Bush published on the eve of the election by Dan Rather? Still no indictment. Not even a serious investigation. Fraudulant reporting in an effort to alter a federal election, that is serious stuff, nimh, and still nothing done about it. No curiosity, none, as to who did it. You also don't remember the October surprise nonsense on Bush I. And Cindy McCain, just wait until closer to November, and you will see all kinds of stuff on McCain and his family, count on it.

Bias in the media, we Republicans and conservatives are so used to it that we expect it as standard procedure.

Dirt reported on Republicans is framed as investigative reporting or documentaries, while the truth reported on Democrats is called Swift Boating. By the way, thanks to the Swift Boat guys, a great bunch of patriots, we know what happened in Vietnam, finally, after Kerry perpetrated his nonsense for the past 35 to 40 years, including the fraudulant Winter Soldier propaganda.
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JTT
 
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Reply Thu 29 May, 2008 09:52 am
Yeah, Okie, you conswearvatives are regular little George Washingtons.
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