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The Case Against John McCain

 
 
Advocate
 
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Reply Thu 24 Jul, 2008 03:15 pm
cicerone imposter wrote:
Obama has to go after Osama to let the Bush-league know that it was possible in short order - rather than taking longer than five years.


CI, you didn't know that Osama is in Pakistan?
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Thu 24 Jul, 2008 03:21 pm
I thought Osama spent time between the two countries; Pakistan and Afghanistan - close to the border in the mountains.
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blueflame1
 
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Reply Thu 24 Jul, 2008 03:24 pm
Another John McCain Gaffe -- Iraq Was the First Major Conflict After 9/11

There is one more John McCain gaffe that the media missed from the now famous CBS interview with Katie Couric.

This is the same interview in which McCain claimed the surge led to the Anbar Awakening, which is demonstrably false. But watch below for another gaffe when McCain says Iraq was the first major conflict after 9/11.

Was Afghanistan not major enough for him? It almost reminds you of when Don Rumsfeld was not impressed with invading Afghanistan because it did not provide a rich enough target environment. He needed something more major.

In all likelihood, this was a simple mental mistake for McCain, among a litany of others recently. But it does go toward state of mind. They never saw Afghanistan as a priority.
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Thu 24 Jul, 2008 03:28 pm
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Thu 24 Jul, 2008 03:31 pm
blueflame, McCain's gaffs will become more frequent as we head into November; the guy is senile, and doesn't remember things he himself have said in the past. As more Americans notice and realize this, those "Leaning" voters are going to be casting their votes for Obama.
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Advocate
 
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Reply Thu 24 Jul, 2008 03:32 pm
cicerone imposter wrote:


You dredged up that nothing pretty quickly.
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Ramafuchs
 
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Reply Thu 24 Jul, 2008 03:36 pm
I think that Bleflame and my poorself had aired the critical views about the intentions of this barbaric wars in the name of 11th september in Abuzz forum.
I am still of the opinion that this is well planned and good organized to terrorise the poor pathetic people.
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Thu 24 Jul, 2008 03:36 pm
You'll have to take that up with NBC News.
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Ramafuchs
 
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Reply Thu 24 Jul, 2008 04:01 pm
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JTT
 
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Reply Thu 24 Jul, 2008 05:46 pm
cicerone imposter wrote:
I thought Osama spent time between the two countries; Pakistan and Afghanistan - close to the border in the mountains.


He summers in the Hamptons though. THey missed him on the no-fly list.
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Advocate
 
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Reply Thu 24 Jul, 2008 06:38 pm
I believe I caught sight of him at Myrtle Beach, SC. He was wearing a thong.
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blueflame1
 
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Reply Thu 24 Jul, 2008 08:34 pm
Veterans Respond to McCain's "Obama Wants to Lose" Remark link
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Thu 24 Jul, 2008 09:03 pm
Just a gaff on top of a gaff for McCain - again. He's now insulted many of the American people who want our troops to come home, and the soldiers who have served, died, and sacrificed their all - to tell us that Obama wants to lose in Iraq.

These gaffs will continue to pile up on McCain until he'll have the same rating as Bush - in the mid-20s.
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mysteryman
 
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Reply Thu 24 Jul, 2008 11:08 pm
cicerone imposter wrote:
Obama has to go after Osama to let the Bush-league know that it was possible in short order - rather than taking longer than five years.


And if Obama is elected and doesnt get Osama, what will the excuse be?
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Diest TKO
 
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Reply Fri 25 Jul, 2008 02:21 am
mysteryman wrote:
cicerone imposter wrote:
Obama has to go after Osama to let the Bush-league know that it was possible in short order - rather than taking longer than five years.


And if Obama is elected and doesnt get Osama, what will the excuse be?


Doesn't matter. Bush Jr. has effectively given Osama a five year head start to create intelligence countermeasures.

What Obama needs to do is be transparent in the task at hand. If he plans to get Osama, then he is going to need international resources. He will need the international support that Bush messed up.

It's not about the USA catching Osama, it's about Osama being caught, period. Bush's flaw was that he wanted to do it his way more than he wanted to achieve the goal.

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mysteryman
 
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Reply Fri 25 Jul, 2008 07:47 am
Diest TKO wrote:
mysteryman wrote:
cicerone imposter wrote:
Obama has to go after Osama to let the Bush-league know that it was possible in short order - rather than taking longer than five years.


And if Obama is elected and doesnt get Osama, what will the excuse be?


Doesn't matter. Bush Jr. has effectively given Osama a five year head start to create intelligence countermeasures.

What Obama needs to do is be transparent in the task at hand. If he plans to get Osama, then he is going to need international resources. He will need the international support that Bush messed up.

It's not about the USA catching Osama, it's about Osama being caught, period. Bush's flaw was that he wanted to do it his way more than he wanted to achieve the goal.

T
K
O


Let me get this straight.
If Obama gets elected and doesnt manage to catch Osama, that will be Bush's fault?

That is the most assinine thing you have ever said.
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blueflame1
 
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Reply Fri 25 Jul, 2008 09:06 am
Obama swipes McCain before heading to France
Published: Friday July 25, 2008

White House hopeful Barack Obama fired back at Republican foe John McCain in a new row over Iraq, as his Europe and Middle East tour Friday took him to France, after a massive campaign event in Berlin.

As rave reviews greeted his soaring speech on mending transatlantic ties before 200,000 people on Thursday, the Democratic White House nominee was due in Paris for talks with French President Nicolas Sarkozy.

But he briefly wrenched his focus from Europe to the cross-fire of the US campaign trail, hitting back after John McCain said this week in a CBS interview that Obama would rather "lose a war than lose a campaign" in an new spat over Iraq war policy.

"I was disappointed by that language," Obama said in an interview with NBC, which aired Thursday night in the United States.

"John McCain and I disagree on policy ... but I've never questioned that he wants to make America safer," Obama said.

"For him to suggest that I don't, for him to suggest that somehow I'm less concerned about the safety of my wife and daughters than he is, I think was unfortunate."
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woiyo
 
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Reply Fri 25 Jul, 2008 10:36 am
"John McCain has dedicated his life to serving, improving and protecting America, Barack Obama spent an afternoon talking about it," he said.

http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=080725132022.3e6pir1c&show_article=1
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Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Fri 25 Jul, 2008 10:39 am
It's the kind of petty statement that Clinton thought would work for her, and look how well that turned out.

Cycloptichorn
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woiyo
 
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Reply Fri 25 Jul, 2008 11:53 am
Petty statements?

How about these "petty statements"

"Tonight, I speak to you not as a candidate for President, but as a citizen - a proud citizen of the United States, and a fellow citizen of the world,"

"But I also know how much I love America. I know that for more than two centuries, we have strived - at great cost and great sacrifice - to form a more perfect union; to seek, with other nations, a more hopeful world."

Look at Berlin, where Germans and Americans learned to work together and trust each other less than three years after facing each other on the field of battle.

People of the world - look at Berlin, where a wall came down, a continent came together, and history proved that there is no challenge too great for a world that stands as one.

The terrorists of September 11th plotted in Hamburg and trained in Kandahar and Karachi before killing thousands from all over the globe on American soil.

As we speak, cars in Boston and factories in Beijing are melting the ice caps in the Arctic, shrinking coastlines in the Atlantic, and bringing drought to farms from Kansas to Kenya.

Yes, there have been differences between America and Europe. No doubt, there will be differences in the future. But the burdens of global citizenship continue to bind us together. A change of leadership in Washington will not lift this burden.
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