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Filling SUV's while people starve

 
 
OCCOM BILL
 
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Reply Mon 5 May, 2008 08:49 am
Clean water and enough food for basic sustenance for the world's population is well within reach of the United States, budget-wise, let alone if other similarly attributed nations kicked in. People aren't starving because of S.U.V.s; they're starving because, collectively, we don't give a ****.
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OCCOM BILL
 
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Reply Tue 6 May, 2008 12:04 am
Why do they always scatter like cockroaches whenever feeding the world is suggested?
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Phoenix32890
 
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Reply Tue 6 May, 2008 04:22 am
OCCOM BILL wrote:
Why do they always scatter like cockroaches whenever feeding the world is suggested?


Bill- Where is it written that the U.S. is obliged to feed the world?
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yitwail
 
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Reply Tue 6 May, 2008 04:47 am
Brand X wrote:
Ethanol is only one factor effecting food prices. The current high cost of crude is a larger factor in rising costs food and many other items.


agreed. i also think ethanol would only affect prices indirectly, in that the corn that goes into it would more likely be suitable for animal feed rather than human consumption.
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yitwail
 
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Reply Tue 6 May, 2008 04:54 am
DrewDad wrote:
Here's an interesting article on US food policy:

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB120968518398861073.html


interesting indeed. even a stopped clock is correct twice a day. (i refer to a proposal mentioned in the article :wink: )
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DrewDad
 
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Reply Tue 6 May, 2008 07:32 am
OCCOM BILL wrote:
Clean water and enough food for basic sustenance for the world's population is well within reach of the United States, budget-wise, let alone if other similarly attributed nations kicked in. People aren't starving because of S.U.V.s; they're starving because, collectively, we don't give a ****.

Yet you choose to run a restaurant instead of a soup kitchen, yes?

Actually, there are some very smart people working on this problem: http://youtube.com/watch?v=EmTgVNFaDig&feature=related.
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islandgirl
 
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Reply Tue 6 May, 2008 08:01 am
Why blame the industrious for being prosperous? What about the fact that people are having children without enough rescourses to feed them.
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DrewDad
 
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Reply Tue 6 May, 2008 09:01 am
I think you need to acknowlege that people are going to have sex, even if they don't have, or aren't willing to use, birth control.

Perhaps we can export our oh-so-effective "abstinence only" programs.... Crying or Very sad
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OCCOM BILL
 
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Reply Tue 6 May, 2008 09:18 am
Phoenix32890 wrote:
OCCOM BILL wrote:
Why do they always scatter like cockroaches whenever feeding the world is suggested?


Bill- Where is it written that the U.S. is obliged to feed the world?
Question Who said we were? Tell me Phoenix; would you rather your tax dollars are spent in an ongoing effort to Free Iraqis, or that we provided clean water and basic sustenance to every person on this planet? Which do you think would do more to prevent terrorism? Which do you think would bring us closer to world peace? Which do you think would stimulate the economy more (over the next century)?

Henry Ford figured out that if his employees could afford a car; they'd buy one. Currently there are 3,000,000,000 potential customers slipping through the cracks.

Plus I don't like seeing pictures of starving kids.

Are you really that satisfied with the status quo?

Sooner of later; we need to figure out as a people that the wealth is not a pizza. Others don't have to get less in order for us to get more. That hasn't been the case since money moved from land to currency. Adam Smith described the unlimited economy in "The Wealth of Nations" back in George Washington's days. The United States subsequently proved his theory sound. There is no good reason the world can't follow.
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ebrown p
 
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Reply Tue 6 May, 2008 09:25 am
islandgirl wrote:
Why blame the industrious for being prosperous? What about the fact that people are having children without enough rescourses to feed them.


Yeah... only rich people should be allowed to have children.
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Phoenix32890
 
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Reply Tue 6 May, 2008 09:52 am
ebrown_p wrote:
islandgirl wrote:
Why blame the industrious for being prosperous? What about the fact that people are having children without enough rescourses to feed them.


Yeah... only rich people should be allowed to have children.


Not quite. People who have children should be prepared to care for them. It is the parents' responsibility, not the government's nor their neighbors.
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ebrown p
 
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Reply Tue 6 May, 2008 09:57 am
Governments who have citizens should be prepared to care for them.
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OCCOM BILL
 
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Reply Tue 6 May, 2008 11:09 am
ebrown_p wrote:
Governments who have citizens should be prepared to care for them.
Ah, but what are you prepared to do if they don't?
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ebrown p
 
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Reply Tue 6 May, 2008 11:10 am
OCCOM BILL wrote:
ebrown_p wrote:
Governments who have citizens should be prepared to care for them.
Ah, but what are you prepared to do if they don't?


Call social services?
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OCCOM BILL
 
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Reply Tue 6 May, 2008 11:26 am
ebrown_p wrote:
OCCOM BILL wrote:
ebrown_p wrote:
Governments who have citizens should be prepared to care for them.
Ah, but what are you prepared to do if they don't?


Call social services?
In North Korea? (Where North Koreans are now, on the average, several inches shorter than South Koreans do to malnutrition. This wasn't the case between Northerners and Southerners when they were all Koreans.)
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Bi-Polar Bear
 
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Reply Tue 6 May, 2008 11:52 am
littlek wrote:
Shewolf, You say they buy more than they need "all over the world". I think it is pretty particular to the US, at least in it's pervasiveness. Certainly people do this world-wide, but not to the extent that we do.


but that's only because we can.... everyone who can....does. IMO.
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Bi-Polar Bear
 
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Reply Tue 6 May, 2008 11:55 am
I masturbate into a tissue which must be flushed instead of my underwear which could be laundered and then used again...... while people starve...
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ebrown p
 
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Reply Tue 6 May, 2008 11:57 am
OCCOM BILL wrote:
ebrown_p wrote:
OCCOM BILL wrote:
ebrown_p wrote:
Governments who have citizens should be prepared to care for them.
Ah, but what are you prepared to do if they don't?


Call social services?
In North Korea? (Where North Koreans are now, on the average, several inches shorter than South Koreans do to malnutrition. This wasn't the case between Northerners and Southerners when they were all Koreans.)


The only government I have any control over is my own. I take the responsibility of holding my government to high standards of fairness and compassion quite seriously.
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DrewDad
 
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Reply Tue 6 May, 2008 12:01 pm
OCCOM BILL wrote:
ebrown_p wrote:
OCCOM BILL wrote:
ebrown_p wrote:
Governments who have citizens should be prepared to care for them.
Ah, but what are you prepared to do if they don't?


Call social services?
In North Korea? (Where North Koreans are now, on the average, several inches shorter than South Koreans do to malnutrition. This wasn't the case between Northerners and Southerners when they were all Koreans.)

So... you're heading over to North Korea to protest, right?
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islandgirl
 
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Reply Tue 6 May, 2008 12:02 pm
Why don't we combine the two. Only in America do we fire the Surgeon General for saying that masturbation is the safest sex.
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