How can Republicans justify this?? Where's the outrage?!1!1?

This ain't Europe, NIMH. We got freedom of speech.

The man has a right to stand up and say he likes Osama bin Laden, he likes Stalin, he likes Hitler, Mao, Attila, and anyone else he damn well pleases.

Just look at the Rev. Wright, who kept damning the U.S. in his church - let him, it's his right under the US Constitution.

We're proud of it.

Interesting, though, the lack of a rush to denounce this guy for choosing to associate with a bunch of Nazi supporters.

Cycloptichorn

High Seas., Wright was damning specific atrocities not a place or a people. Of course this homage to Hitler is outrageous.

You must really learn to relax nimh. Your getting to sound like spendius. We have an attitude that, every so often when things get really nuts, we try to elect some comedian. Remember Jesse Ventura?SPIDER HAIR MAN

So it's OK to damn "specific atrocities" and also perfectly OK to damn a "person"? Hitler was not "a place" and he was not "a people".

You're usually more coherent than that, BlueFlame, and unlike Nimh you have no excuse if you show ignorance of the US Constitution.

I'm with you, Farmerman. Read these side-splitting latest Al Qaeda dispatches from the anti-terror front:
http://www.able2know.org/forums/viewtopic.php?p=3217449#3217449

High Seas, I aint damning this guy. He has his rights. I think paying homage to Hitler is outrageous. I have my rights. I think paying homage to BUSHitler is outrageous too. I think preemptive wars of agression, acquisition and choice as Hitler waged and as Bushie wages in Iraq are criminal but paying homage to either mass murderer is not criminal. Just sick and perverted.

Odd that this discussion turned immediately to the issue of free speech. But that certainly was not nimh's point. Nobody disagrees that Tony Zirkle has the right to speak at der Führer's birthday bash. The issue, rather, is why haven't Republican officials denounced Zirkle.

It's evident from the story, however, that at least one Republican official did denounce Zirkle.

Porter County Republican chairman Chuck Williams on Tuesday denounced Zirkle's appearance at the gathering. "He certainly doesn't hold the view of the of the Republican Party," Williams said. "I don't know why you would stand up in front of a picture of Adolf Hitler when millions of Americans fought against that kind of oppression."

I'm sure when it comes to fringe candidates in a congressional race, it's not necessary for the leaders of the national party to get involved. If it were, then we'd need a 24-hour denounce-a-thon channel on cable TV.

When the "why don't you awful pepople denounce this obscure person/decision/comment you've never heard of...you haven't so you must support terrorism etc." craze was at its height, didn't we start a denunciation thread somewhere, so as to be on record for denouncing (pre-emptively) anything we hadn't thought of denouncing so that whoever the dumb progenitor of the latest "why haven't you scum denounced this?" thread could be referred to it?


I think we let the right onto it...so perhaps we may consider this latest loon denounced?

Did I ever say the state should make it illegal for an idiot like Zirkle to speak at a Neo-Nazi meeting?

Your argument seems a bit of a non sequitur, since it applies to pretty much nothing I wrote.

Oh absolutely -- maybe you missed the ironic/sarcastic undertone of part of my post. Maybe you had to be there for those MM threads of yore to get what I was poking at.

That said, he wasnt exactly a "fringe candidate" if he got 30% of the Republican primary vote last time.

(Well, it depends on how slanted the district's political lean is, I guess -- if it's an overwhelmingly Democratic district then I suppose a fringe candidate could go a long way in the Republican primary.)

I wouldnt really expect any national Republican figures to speak out about this of course - that was sarcasm (or parody or whatever you want to call it). On the other hand I did think it a frown-worthy local news story.

A Fresh Look
by Carla Binion
Nazis and the Republican Party
http://www.bartcop.com/nazigop.htm

This is a tempest in need of a teapot.

Your absolutely correct nimh, every repub out there that knows about this guy should be raising hell about him.
The repubs should go so far a to actually kick him out of the party.
But since I'm not a repub, I doubt that they will listen to me about it.

Of course, the local dems should also be raising hell about this guy, and nothing in the article says they are doing that either.

COMMUNIST int he Democratic Party....

Unsuccessful in these efforts, in 1972 Hillary Rodham took her unmarried companion, Bill Clinton, to Berkeley, where she worked as an intern at her hand-picked law firm: Treuhaft, Walker, and Bernstein. The practice, founded by current or former members of the Communist Party USA, had long acted as a legal asset for CPUSA, the Black Panthers, and other Bay-area radicals. Founding partner Bob Treuhaft had been labeled one of the nation's most "dangerously subversive" lawyers.

Had the future presidential candidate somehow inadvertently joined a Marxist law firm 3,000 miles away from her home college? Treuhaft disclosed, "She did want to work for a left-wing movement law firm. Anyone who went to college or law school would have known our law firm was a Communist law firm." In fact, Treuhaft and his wife, Jessica Mitford, left the Party, not because of ideological variance with the Communists, but because "It was ineffective." In 1992, the co-president-elect wrote, "I am an admirer of Jessica Mitford." While Rodham was doing her internship, Treuhaft feverishly worked at getting charges dismissed in Huey P. Newton's 1967 murder of a police officer. (Hillary's apologists often claim she monitored the Rackley trial to protest "mistreatment" of Bobby Seale; ironically, Huey Newton abused Seale far worse than any legal system.)

Not all partners in the firm had cut ties with the Communist Party. Doris Brin Walker remained a member of the CPUSA 30 years after Rodham's intership had ended. Having just finished a stint as president of the National Lawyers Guild when Hillary reported for duty, Walker longed for a "Second American Revolution." As Hillary left the firm, Walker successfully defended Angela Davis against multiple felonies resulting from a shootout that left a California judge dead. Walker said she undertook the case at the instruction of the CPUSA. She once mused, "For Hillary to pick the most left-wing firm really at that time in the Bay Area, it's still a surprise to me that more hasn't been made of that."

Hillary did yeoman's work while learning at the feet of the masters. Associates say Hillary helped draftees get themselves declared conscientious objectors, so they would not serve in Vietnam. They insist Hillary served VA interns seeking to avoid taking a loyalty oath to the United States. Some hint she worked on Black Panther cases, or attended their trials. And she undoubtedly assisted Berkeley student body president Daniel Siegel obtain admission to the bar, which he was denied after he thundered: "The question is not violence versus non-violence; the question is when violence, and how violence, and what violence." He graciously specified targets: "I can see very little objection theoretically, politically, or morally, or anything else, with burning down the Bank of America and all its 500 branches." Mr. Siegel now shares his legal wisdom at the bench, thanks to Miss Rodham.

http://frontpagemagazine.com/Articles/Read.aspx?GUID=84352487-41FB-4A77-B521-C365CC13BFF9

Thank you, Joe McCarthy.

Republicans don't need to justify it, because they didn't do it. One man did it.

He ain't got McCarthy's class.



I note he's spamming the place with this ****.

Really, why is this FACT spam? Are you that brainwashed or stupid to look objectively at one experiences to form an opinion? I tend to think you fall in line with the rest of the apologists who are "just stuck on being stupid".

I await your cleaver response.