Few Corrections in what you say.
Agree with you....
Firstly Tamil or any Indo Aryan - Dravidian languages are not the oldest languages in the world.
Dravidian may not be, but Tamil is THE OLDEST Language in the world. (Certainly ahead of Sanskrit)
We must understand that the evolution of languages happens thru a concept called Proto Languages.
Not Exactly, its a modern method used by linguist to break the language web, to see if it joins the dots, thats all.Nothing proven on rock
Proto Languages provide the infrastructure for modern languages using
We are not talking about modern languages here, these are oldies, the oldest known scientifically proven text is of 250/300BC, but what it describes is of a event which happened in 3000BC. Now on the other hand oldest known scientifically proven text in Sanskrit is of 1500/2000BC .History is judged by evidence, but unfortunately some go missing in natures care as time passes away(few by invading civilizations :-))
1. Read and Learned methods.
2. Written Script.
3. Grammatical rules.
Proto-languages are, by definition, are hypothetical languages reconstructed by linguists on the basis of above 5 point, and hence no proto-language has any historical record of existnace. So is the case with Proto-Dravidian languages.
All the above influences the modern language, not historical. It helps linguist to go for a brain war, but thats all.
Proto-North Dravidian, Proto-Central Dravidian and Proto-South Dravidian languaes are estimated to be around 500 BC using the earliest mentions in more than 3 of the above 5 points. (Thats not true, Tamil first Sangam speak s Volume about Literature,Art & Excellent administration which includes all ) But due to a dearth of comparative linguistic research into the Dravidian languages, not many details as to the grammar, epoch, or location of Proto-Dravidian are known. Simply becoz the lack of the proofs supporting the existance of them using above 5 points.
But Vedic Sanskrit scores all 5 and was found to be existed in all the above means since around 1500 BC!
Congrats, its like i have good teeth compared to my grand pa, only thing is i dont know how he had when he was at my age, but now i have.
Also I am skeptical about claims that tamil existed before Sanskrit. Although Tamil words were found in the Vedas they were originally vedic sanskrit and not other way round.
Love the word Vedic Sanskrit, coined at the right junction. So There are words of Tamil in Vedas, but none of Sanskrit in any Tamil Literature of that old, yet you are right.
So does that mean
Means nothing, Its always been who is up without out logic,
Vedic Sanskrit predates Tamil? Most likely. Naaahhhhhh
Vedic Sanskrit prediats Modern Sanskrit? Ofcourse. Naaahhhhh
Tamil predates Modern Sanskrit? Least likely although .OF-Course yes
Oldest books which cover all the Dravidian languages which can point to Proto-Dravidian forms is Dravidian Etymological Dictionary (who certified that, there are stone carvings/Palm leaf manuscript which has details of events that had happened even before Sanskrit was born) still consist only of lists of related words without further explanation; therefore for a talented linguist Proto-Dravidian offers large possibilities.
Further researches in Proto-Dravidian may surprise with sufficient proofs that they may be oldest forms in Indian subcontinent.
They are the oldest,
Sadly only little is known and only researchers can do is speculate about proto dravidian hiostory.
Oh Boy, you just nailed all with Solid evidence, huh?
Till then Vedic Sanskrit and thus arguably Sanskrit are assumed to be older than Dravidian languages.
So all your arguments dont prove anything, Civilization existed even before your Proto theory came in to picture, they used sign language/controlled vocal sounds and communicated effectively, big thing they survived and moved on.