voluntary rape

Oh for heavens sake.

There is no such thing as voluntary rape. Get a grip.

If a man takes advantage of a women who is so drunk she can't function, that is rape.

If a man takes advantage of a woman who is drunk but is still in control of her body, it is not rape.

Rape is when someone takes sex from you. You do not ask for it. You do not suggest it. You do not want it. Period.

Rape is not about sex.
Rape is about power and control over another person.

When will people learn this?

Bella Dea wrote:

Oh for heavens sake.

There is no such thing as voluntary rape. Get a grip.

If a man takes advantage of a women who is so drunk she can't function, that is rape.

If a man takes advantage of a woman who is drunk but is still in control of her body, it is not rape.

Rape is when someone takes sex from you. You do not ask for it. You do not suggest it. You do not want it. Period.

Rape is not about sex.
Rape is about power and control over another person.

When will people learn this?

I find it hard to agree that:
" Rape is not about sex. "

are you really wanting to have that conversation?

OmSigDAVID wrote:

Bella Dea wrote:

Oh for heavens sake.

There is no such thing as voluntary rape. Get a grip.

If a man takes advantage of a women who is so drunk she can't function, that is rape.

If a man takes advantage of a woman who is drunk but is still in control of her body, it is not rape.

Rape is when someone takes sex from you. You do not ask for it. You do not suggest it. You do not want it. Period.

Rape is not about sex.
Rape is about power and control over another person.

When will people learn this?

I find it hard to agree that:
" Rape is not about sex. "

Then you'd be wrong. Do some research. Educate youself.

Here's a new (to me) phrase and a blurb about it. Draw your own conclusions.

Quote:

The concept of voluntary rape

Rape is bad. Let there be no doubt about it. A man (or woman) entering or otherwise sexually abusing and molesting the body of a woman (or man) against her (or his) will is in my mind a disgusting and unforgivable crime. I am thankful for every law that is passed to punish committers of rape and to help the victims. I even remember making a little victory dance once my country decided it was forbidden by law to rape your spouse.
Strangely enough,
prior to that law you were allowed to rape someone
once you were married to that person. Bad thing indeed.

http://www.cecile-weekly.com/index.php/the-concept-of-voluntary-rape/

One the definition of rape was expanded to include relationship sexual encounters gone wrong it was inevitable that rape laws would be used against those who just wanted to get laid, who have no need to do violence upon women. Much or all of what is called date rape and marital rape needs to be called something other than rape.

Note that tho I have had delightful young ladies living with me[seriatim] over the years n decades, I have never been married
and will preserve that state of affairs. )

It can be dangerous for those who opt to get married
( an act of questionable wisdom ? )

If Mrs. John Q. Public discovers, after an act of coitus,
that John has acquired a mistress,
will her memory be retroactively clouded by negative emotion,
when she contacts the local constabulary the next day,
or a few months thereafter ?

or if thay just have a fight about money ????


risky

OmSigDAVID wrote:

Note that tho I have had delightful young ladies living with me[seriatim]
over the years n decades, I have never been married
and will preserve that state of affairs. )

And that's a blessing for every woman that might cross your path!

On the other hand,
if a young lady ( or an old one ) simply accepts a date,
during whose progress her escort becomes malfeasant
and goes to raping on her,
as a matter of elementary justice,
she is rightfully entitled to the aid of the police
and to be avenged by the criminal justice system.
David

OmSigDAVID wrote:

On the other hand,
if a young lady ( or an old one ) simply accepts a date,
during whose progress her escort becomes malfeasant
and goes to raping on her,
as a matter of elementary justice,
she is rightfully entitled to the aid of the police
and to be avenged by the criminal justice system.
David

If there is no or very little relationship then the act was rape,
a perp does not get away from the law by getting a woman to agree to a date.
If however a woman consents to a long term relationship,
she should over time lose the right to claim rape.

You guys just don't get it - when a women says NO - any woman, regardless
of wife, girlfriend, date or stranger - if she says NO that means she cannot
be touched. Anyone trying to have intercourse with a women against her
will is rape!

No if, no when, no nothing - it is rape!

You guys just don't get it - when a women says NO - any woman, regardless
of wife, girlfriend, date or stranger - if she says NO that means she cannot
be touched. Anyone trying to have intercourse with a women against her
will is rape!

No if, no when, no nothing - it is rape!

Amazon.com
Evolutionary psychology often stomps where other branches of science fear to tread. Case in point: A Natural History of Rape. Randy Thornhill, a biologist, and Craig T. Palmer, an anthropologist, have attempted to apply evolutionary principles to one of the most disgusting of human behaviors, and the result is a guaranteed storm of media hype and debate. The book's central argument is that rape is a genetically developed strategy sustained over generations of human life because it is a kind of sexual selection--a successful reproductive strategy. This runs directly counter to the prevailing notion--that rape is predominantly about violent power, and only secondarily about sex.