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Will McCain Get a Pass on Racist Video?

 
 
snood
 
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Reply Thu 27 Mar, 2008 05:16 pm
maporsche wrote:
snood wrote:
What a fortunate lot are we here at A2K, to be inundated by your edifying wisdom.


My thoughts about you exactly Snood my friend.


Praise from you is valuable indeed - for who is proven a better arbiter of what is right and good than maporsche? Solomon-like judgement, the expressive powers of a true wordsmith, and unerring grasp of the real important issues of the day. I salute you again, sir.
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Setanta
 
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Reply Thu 27 Mar, 2008 05:18 pm
Did you type that, or did you just lay it on with a trowel?
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Butrflynet
 
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Reply Thu 27 Mar, 2008 05:28 pm
Foofie wrote:
Whenever I see Obama on the news, I squint trying to see the American flag lapel pin that so many other politicians wear. Am I missing seeing the lapel pin? If he doesn't wear one, what is the message?



It means that a lot of those spots on suits that you squint at while looking for American flag lapel pins are probably actually stains from what the politicians had for lunch.
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Ramafuchs
 
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Reply Thu 27 Mar, 2008 05:33 pm
Nothing permanent except CHANGE:
R U AFRAID OF change?
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snood
 
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Reply Thu 27 Mar, 2008 05:45 pm
Setanta wrote:
Did you type that, or did you just lay it on with a trowel?

I deeply resemble your insinuation, sir.
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blueflame1
 
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Reply Fri 4 Apr, 2008 11:18 am
McCain Booed At Martin Luther King Speech: Watch The Video
April 4, 2008 12:28 PM
by Will Thomas
The Huffington Post
Senator John McCain, "who says he will court the African-American vote this year and campaign in places Republicans often shun," spoke in Memphis on Friday to mark the 40th anniversary of the assassination of the Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.

But his speech was met with boos and interruptions from many in the audience, as he apologized for repeatedly opposing the creation of a holiday to celebrate King's legacy.

(The image of a black man holding an umbrella over McCain's head while he gave the speech didn't exactly compliment the moment.)

Take a look:
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Roxxxanne
 
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Reply Fri 4 Apr, 2008 12:07 pm
McCain voted for the MLK Holiday after he voted against it.

FLIP, FLOP! FLIP, FLOP!
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Advocate
 
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Reply Sun 6 Apr, 2008 02:22 pm
10 things you should know about John McCain (but probably don't):

1. John McCain voted against establishing a national holiday in honor of Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. Now he says his position has "evolved," yet he's continued to oppose key civil rights laws.1
2. According to Bloomberg News, McCain is more hawkish than Bush on Iraq, Russia and China. Conservative columnist Pat Buchanan says McCain "will make Cheney look like Gandhi."2
3. His reputation is built on his opposition to torture, but McCain voted against a bill to ban waterboarding, and then applauded President Bush for vetoing that ban.3

4. McCain opposes a woman's right to choose. He said, "I do not support Roe versus Wade. It should be overturned."4

5. The Children's Defense Fund rated McCain as the worst senator in Congress for children. He voted against the children's health care bill last year, then defended Bush's veto of the bill.5

6. He's one of the richest people in a Senate filled with millionaires. The Associated Press reports he and his wife own at least eight homes! Yet McCain says the solution to the housing crisis is for people facing foreclosure to get a "second job" and skip their vacations.6

7. Many of McCain's fellow Republican senators say he's too reckless to be commander in chief. One Republican senator said: "The thought of his being president sends a cold chill down my spine. He's erratic. He's hotheaded. He loses his temper and he worries me."7

8. McCain talks a lot about taking on special interests, but his campaign manager and top advisers are actually lobbyists. The government watchdog group Public Citizen says McCain has 59 lobbyists raising money for his campaign, more than any of the other presidential candidates.8
9. McCain has sought closer ties to the extreme religious right in recent years. The pastor McCain calls his "spiritual guide," Rod Parsley, believes America's founding mission is to destroy Islam, which he calls a "false religion." McCain sought the political support of right-wing preacher John Hagee, who believes Hurricane Katrina was God's punishment for gay rights and called the Catholic Church "the Antichrist" and a "false cult."9

10. He positions himself as pro-environment, but he scored a 0?-yes, zero?-from the League of Conservation Voters last year.10

Sources:
1. "The Complicated History of John McCain and MLK Day," ABC News, April 3, 2008
http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/04/the-complicated.html
"McCain Facts," ColorOfChange.org, April 4, 2008
http://colorofchange.org/mccain_facts/

2. "McCain More Hawkish Than Bush on Russia, China, Iraq," Bloomberg News, March 12, 2008
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601103&sid=aF28rSCtk0ZM&refer=us

"Buchanan: John McCain 'Will Make Cheney Look Like Gandhi,'" ThinkProgress, February 6, 2008
http://thinkprogress.org/2008/02/06/buchanan-gandhi-mccain/
3. "McCain Sides With Bush On Torture Again, Supports Veto Of Anti-Waterboarding Bill," ThinkProgress, February 20, 2008
http://thinkprogress.org/2008/02/20/mccain-torture-veto/
4. "McCain says Roe v. Wade should be overturned," MSNBC, February 18, 2007
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17222147/
5. "2007 Children's Defense Fund Action Council® Nonpartisan Congressional Scorecard," February 2008
http://www.childrensdefense.org/site/PageServer?pagename=act_learn_scorecard2007

"McCain: Bush right to veto kids health insurance expansion," CNN, October 3, 2007
http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/10/03/mccain.interview/
6. "Beer Executive Could Be Next First Lady," Associated Press, April 3, 2008
http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5h-S1sWHm0tchtdMP5LcLywg5ZtMgD8VQ86M80
"McCain Says Bank Bailout Should End `Systemic Risk,'" Bloomberg News, March 25, 2008
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=aHMiDVYaXZFM&refer=home

7. "Will McCain's Temper Be a Liability?," Associated Press, February 16, 2008
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory?id=4301022

"Famed McCain temper is tamed," Boston Globe, January 27, 2008
http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2008/01/27/famed_mccain_temper_is_tamed/

8. "Black Claims McCain's Campaign Is Above Lobbyist Influence: 'I Don't Know What The Criticism Is,'" ThinkProgress, April 2, 2008
http://thinkprogress.org/2008/04/02/mccain-black-lobbyist/

"McCain's Lobbyist Friends Rally 'Round Their Man," ABC News, January 29, 2008
http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/story?id=4210251

9. "McCain's Spiritual Guide: Destroy Islam," Mother Jones Magazine, March 12, 2008
http://www.motherjones.com/washington_dispatch/2008/03/john-mccain-rod-parsley-spiritual-guide.html

"Will McCain Specifically 'Repudiate' Hagee's Anti-Gay Comments?," ThinkProgress, March 12, 2008
http://thinkprogress.org/2008/03/12/mccain-hagee-anti-gay/
"McCain 'Very Honored' By Support Of Pastor Preaching 'End-Time Confrontation With Iran,'" ThinkProgress, February 28, 2008
http://thinkprogress.org/2008/02/28/hagee-mccain-endorsement/

10. "John McCain Gets a Zero Rating for His Environmental Record," Sierra Club, February 28, 2008
http://www.alternet.org/blogs/environment/77913/





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blueflame1
 
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Reply Fri 11 Apr, 2008 08:49 am
McCain Won't Apologize For Vote Against Civil Rights Act link
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barackman28
 
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Reply Wed 16 Apr, 2008 11:33 pm
Advocate forgot to list McCain's rabid Anti-gay positions. Senator Obama, despite the fact that he may lose some extremist African-American religious "nuts" vote, is adamant in his insistence on equal rights for all including the rights of gays to marry!
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revel
 
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Reply Thu 24 Apr, 2008 06:15 am
Speaking of McCain flip flops and so called mistaken statements which sometimes happen in a matter of minutes or at least a day: (source is liberal but there are links to all the statements)

Quote:
Last February, hard-line conservative evangelical Pastor John Hagee endorsed Sen. John McCain's (R-AZ) candidacy for president. Despite Hagee's history of controversial and bigoted comments -- such as calling Catholicism "The Great Whore" and blaming Hurricane Katrina on gays -- McCain said he was "very honored" to receive the endorsement, one which he also reportedly sought.

McCain has since both "repudiate[d]" and defended Hagee's intolerant remarks. But McCain's double-talk on Hagee went a step further yesterday on ABC's This Week when he seemed a bit confused as to whether or not he still accepts Hagee's endorsement -- first agreeing that it was a "mistake" to accept it, but less than 30 seconds later saying he is "glad" to have it:

STEPHANOPOULOS: So was it a mistake to solicit and accept his endorsement?

MCCAIN: Oh, probably, sure. [Â…]

STEPHANOPOULOS: So you no longer want his endorsement?

MCCAIN: I'm glad to have his endorsement. I condemn remarks that are, in any way, viewed as anti-anything. And thanks for asking.

Indeed, McCain has been confused quite a bit lately on a wide range of issues:

- McCain has said waterboarding "should never be condoned in the U.S." but voted against a bill banning the CIA from using torture, specifically including waterboarding.

- McCain says he is "a consistent supporter of educational benefits" for the military but has indicated he will not support the bipartisan 21st Century GI Bill.

- On at least three occasions, McCain baselessly claimed Iran is training Al Qaeda in Iraq but argued the error was an isolated slip of the tongue.

- McCain falsely suggested that Al-Qaeda in Iraq is a "sect of Shi'ites."

- McCain falsely claimed Moktada al-Sadr "declared the cease-fire" after recent fighting in Basra and has said he is both a "major player" in Iraq and that his influence "has been on the wane for a long time."

- Economists and nonpartisan analysts have said recently that the numbers in McCain's economic plan simply "don't add up."

- McCain has made the elimination of earmarks a cornerstone of his presidential campaign but he can't name any he would eliminate.

- In a matter of one day, McCain said Americans are both "better off" and "not better off" than they were before President Bush took office.

McCain's latest 30-second flip-flop represents the political dance he must engage in to try to appeal to both the conservative evangelical wing of the Republican Party and independent-minded Americans. But despite all his back and forth, the media still seem happy to promote McCain's self-proclaimed persona as a "straight-talking maverick."


http://thinkprogress.org/2008/04/21/hagee-flip-flop/

But hey it is ok for McCain to accept the Hagee endorsement or accept and not accept it because after all those Hagee is talking about are gay americans so it is ok to say they are the cause of Hurricans and Catholics are only Catholic Americans so it is ok to call them the great whore.
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woiyo
 
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Reply Thu 24 Apr, 2008 06:20 am
Is that all you are worried about?
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revel
 
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Reply Thu 24 Apr, 2008 06:25 am
No I am also worried about McCain's view on women. He wouldn't vote on the senate bill demanding equal pay for women (which we don't have yet) but said women need to go back to school instead. (as though there are not graduates with degress all over the place not getting equal pay.) But I guess they are only American women. McCain needs to get with the times. Women do not stay with their families because they don't have anyone to take care of them in these times.


Quote:
McCain stated his opposition to the bill as he campaigned in rural eastern Kentucky, where poverty is worse among women than men. The Arizona senator said he was familiar with the disparity but that there are better ways to help women find better paying jobs.

"They need the education and training, particularly since more and more women are heads of their households, as much or more than anybody else," McCain said. "And it's hard for them to leave their families when they don't have somebody to take care of them.

"It's a vicious cycle that's affecting women, particularly in a part of the country like this, where mining is the mainstay; traditionally, women have not gone into that line of work, to say the least," he said.


source
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woiyo
 
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Reply Thu 24 Apr, 2008 07:07 am
revel wrote:
No I am also worried about McCain's view on women. He wouldn't vote on the senate bill demanding equal pay for women (which we don't have yet) but said women need to go back to school instead. (as though there are not graduates with degress all over the place not getting equal pay.) But I guess they are only American women. McCain needs to get with the times. Women do not stay with their families because they don't have anyone to take care of them in these times.


Quote:
McCain stated his opposition to the bill as he campaigned in rural eastern Kentucky, where poverty is worse among women than men. The Arizona senator said he was familiar with the disparity but that there are better ways to help women find better paying jobs.

"They need the education and training, particularly since more and more women are heads of their households, as much or more than anybody else," McCain said. "And it's hard for them to leave their families when they don't have somebody to take care of them.

"It's a vicious cycle that's affecting women, particularly in a part of the country like this, where mining is the mainstay; traditionally, women have not gone into that line of work, to say the least," he said.


source


That is a very reasonable response. I guess you hate it when someone points out the TRUTH. Is that why you support liars like Mr.s Bill Clinton or Obama?
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revel
 
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Reply Thu 24 Apr, 2008 07:29 am
Oh please; it is not reasonable to say women find it hard to leave their families because there is no one to take care of them. That is a sexist outdated view along with answering the unequal pay question with saying women need to go back to school. Women have college degrees and are still not getting equal pay.
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woiyo
 
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Reply Thu 24 Apr, 2008 08:24 am
revel wrote:
Oh please; it is not reasonable to say women find it hard to leave their families because there is no one to take care of them. That is a sexist outdated view along with answering the unequal pay question with saying women need to go back to school. Women have college degrees and are still not getting equal pay.


Not ALL women have college education and each region of the country is different. You need to get out more and stop acting like a snob.
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revel
 
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Reply Thu 24 Apr, 2008 08:28 am
You need to quit living in the past. In this day and age; women have to have some way of making a living whether they are married or not, most of time that means they need some kind of degree or training in order to do it. They do not have to depend on someone "taking care of them" no more than a man does.
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woiyo
 
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Reply Thu 24 Apr, 2008 08:30 am
revel wrote:
You need to quit living in the past. In this day and age; women have to have some way of making a living whether they are married or not, most of time that means they need some kind of degree or training in order to do it. They do not have to depend on someone "taking care of them" no more than a man does.


Yea, I know, stay at home Mom's, caring and raising their children is beneath you. You expect the "village" to do that kind of un-important work, don't you.
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revel
 
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Reply Thu 24 Apr, 2008 08:53 am
woiyo wrote:
revel wrote:
You need to quit living in the past. In this day and age; women have to have some way of making a living whether they are married or not, most of time that means they need some kind of degree or training in order to do it. They do not have to depend on someone "taking care of them" no more than a man does.


Yea, I know, stay at home Mom's, caring and raising their children is beneath you. You expect the "village" to do that kind of un-important work, don't you.


Listen you really should not be so quick to generalized based on partisan beliefs. In any event; this is not about me or you but an outdated view expressed by McCain and echoed by you apparently.

Most of the time women have no choice but to work because it takes both partners in a relationship to be able have enough money to raise a family. Or some women might just want to be in the work place and that is ok too. It is also ok if women prefer and can afford to stay at home. My point which I raised in my previous two post remains the same. Women do have college degrees and are working so that is no excuse not to pay them as much as men get paid and women don't stay in their families just have someone take care of them. We are rational human beings every bit as a capable of taking care of ourselves on our own if we desire or have no choice. Unmarried women with children need help in getting started with help paying for day care and college or training. But on the whole young women today make career choices and go to college for it just as much as young men do and deserve equal pay for equal work.
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McGentrix
 
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Reply Thu 24 Apr, 2008 08:59 am
regarding women, Revel had this to say:

Quote:
We are rational human beings


That's just a blatant lie right there. :wink:
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