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Breaking!!! Obama Passport Data Breach

 
 
revel
 
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Reply Fri 21 Mar, 2008 08:16 pm
edgarblythe wrote:
How much information are we talking about here? There is no list of places they have been. There is a photo and a Social Security number. What else?


Who knows; all I know is that it took three trips to get enough information on Obama's passports for these folks so I would assume it was more than a photo and Security number which surely could be accomplished in less than three trips.

Anyhoo; a lot of personal information can be gleaned from a social security number.
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Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Fri 21 Mar, 2008 08:24 pm
Bi-Polar Bear wrote:
nosy low level employees and nothing more IMO.


Hmm, I wouldn't be so sure.

Remember that the State Department sez they were alerted to this by a reporter; they said that they didn't know about it before then. There's no actual proof that the documents were or weren't used for anything; we just don't know.

But if nobody told anyone about it, how did the reporter find out?

That's the question that needs answering, and will tell you whether or not there is anything behind this.

Cycloptichorn
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hawkeye10
 
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Reply Fri 21 Mar, 2008 08:29 pm
Quote:
CATEGORIES OF RECORDS IN THE SYSTEM:
Passport Services maintains U.S. passport records for passports
issued from 1925 to the present, as well as vital records related to
births abroad, deaths, and witnesses to marriages overseas. The
passport records system does not maintain evidence of travel such as
entrance/exit stamps, visas, or residence permits, since this
information is entered into the passport book after it is issued. The
passport records system includes the following categories of records:
Passport books and passport cards, applications for
passport books and passport cards, and applications for additional visa
pages, amendments, extensions, replacements, and/or renewals of
passport books or cards (including all information and materials
submitted as part of or with all such applications);
Applications for registration at American Diplomatic and
Consular Posts as U.S. citizens or for issuance of Cards of Identity
and Registration as U.S. Citizens;
Consular Reports of Birth Abroad of United States
citizens;
Certificates of Witness to Marriage;
Certificates of Loss of United States Nationality;
Oaths of Repatriation;
Consular Certificates of Repatriation;
Reports of Death of an American Citizen Abroad;
Cards of Identity and Registration as U.S. citizens;
Lookout files which identify those persons whose
applications for a consular or related service require other than
routine examination or action; and
Miscellaneous materials, which are documents and/or
records maintained separately, if not in the application, including but
not limited to the following types of documents:
[cir] Investigatory reports compiled in connection with granting or
denying passport and related services or prosecuting violations of
passport criminal statutes;
[cir] Transcripts and opinions on administrative hearings, appeals
and civil actions in federal courts;
[cir] Legal briefs, memoranda, judicial orders and opinions arising
from administrative determinations relating to passports and
citizenship;
[cir] Birth and baptismal certificates;
[cir] Court orders;
[cir] Arrest warrants;
[cir] Medical, personal and financial reports;
[cir] Affidavits;
[cir] Inter-agency and intra-agency memoranda, telegrams, letters,
and other miscellaneous correspondence;
[cir] An electronic index of all passport application records
created since 1978, and some passport application records created
between 1962 and 1978;
[cir] An electronic index of Department of State Reports of Birth
of American Citizens abroad; and/or
[cir] Records of lost and stolen passports.

http://cryptome.org/dos010908.htm
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hawkeye10
 
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Reply Fri 21 Mar, 2008 08:30 pm
Quote:
SAFEGUARDS:
Passport records are protected by the Privacy Act of 1974, 5 U.S.C.
552a (2007). All employees of the Department of State have undergone a
thorough background security investigation and contractors have
background investigations in accordance with their contracts. Access to
the Department of State and its annexes is controlled by security
guards, and admission is limited to those individuals possessing a
valid identification card or individuals under proper escort. Passport
office annexes have security access controls (code entrances) and/or
security alarm systems. All records containing personal information are
maintained in secured file cabinets or in restricted areas, access to
which is limited to authorized personnel. Access to computerized
databases is password-protected and under the responsibility of the
system manager and persons who report to him or her. The system manager
has the capability of viewing and printing audit trails of access from
the electronic media, thereby permitting monitoring of computer usage
.

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ossobuco
 
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Reply Fri 21 Mar, 2008 08:35 pm
I can see many reasons including simple curiosity. (I spent time at age seventeen researching med charts on a job and researched my eyes out. Well, I wanted to be an m.d. and it was a window.) Still, I figure there is some confluence in these episodes (whomever the episodes cover). Or a combo of confluence and curiosity.

Imbecility in any case, from whatever quarters. (Does that mean I might have been imbecilic at seventeen, well, yes, sure). Oh, and I know these folks aren't seventeen. I was just speaking to the ordinary instinct of curiosity.

I would guess though, that higher ups would have a clue about safeguards on computers. That's a hmmmm for me.
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hawkeye10
 
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Reply Fri 21 Mar, 2008 08:35 pm
Quote:
State Department Aides Searched Perot's Passport File
By Michael Isikoff
and Walter Pincus
The Washington Post

WASHINGTON

Two weeks after they conducted an unusual late-night hunt for the passport files of Bill Clinton and his mother, State Department officials returned to a National Archives depository in suburban Maryland to search and retrieve the passport records of independent presidential candidate Ross Perot, according to a National Archives memo.
http://www-tech.mit.edu/V112/N56/perot.56w.html

Political snooping into passports records is not novel, and the Clinton's no doubt remember that the tactic was used against them before.
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ossobuco
 
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Reply Fri 21 Mar, 2008 08:44 pm
(I can't even find mine; it's somewhere in this room).

I don't know how lightweight or heavyweight this will work out politically. Seems desperation city for politicos if they (whoever they are) spy on this stuff.. Re the rest of us, disturbing.
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maporsche
 
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Reply Fri 21 Mar, 2008 09:12 pm
I betcha a lot of celebrities get looked up in all of these government jobs.

Obama is now a rock star. I would bet that his name being pulled up 3 times in the last year doesn't even rank in the top 20.
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Butrflynet
 
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Reply Fri 21 Mar, 2008 09:42 pm
You miss the point, Maporche.

According to the first article in this thread, the State Department spokesperson said:


Quote:
"We have strict rules restricting access to passport records," Mr. McCormack said.

Each time an employee logs on to the passport-records network, they are informed that the records are protected by the Privacy Act and are "available only on a need-to-know basis," he said. But no technical bar prevents a person, once he is in the system, from gaining access to Privacy Act-protected records to which he has no "need-to-know" rights.

But the network has an electronic monitoring system that is tripped when an employee accesses a record of a prominent person, like Mr. Obama. The alarm then triggers an inquiry into the incident, and "when the answer is not satisfactory, a supervisor is notified."

Such records can be accessed when it is part of an official inquiry, but in the case of Mr. Obama, it was not, Mr. McCormack said.



You also miss the point that it isn't just about Obama. The other candidates have been notified about their passport records also being violated.

If there is such an elaborate priority safeguard system set up to protect the privacy of "prominate persons" that is so easily violated and violations go unreported for so long, imagine who all is snooping into the records of the rest of us non-prominate people and what is being done with the data found there. Remember, all it takes to access anyone's data is the login to enter the system. Once in, a clerk has access to any and all other data in the system just by typing a data request.

It is a potential gold mine for identity thiefs at the very least.
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maporsche
 
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Reply Fri 21 Mar, 2008 09:48 pm
Butrflynet wrote:
You miss the point, Maporche.


I was rebutting the argument that this had to be some nefarious person hacking into these records as political information against Obama. I don't think that is the case here.

Quote:

It is a potential gold mine for identity thiefs at the very least.


I work for a major credit card company and I can assure you, there are MUCH easier ways to steal someone's identity than paying a government employee to go into the state department's passport database and steal records.
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Butrflynet
 
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Reply Fri 21 Mar, 2008 09:51 pm
It isn't just State Department employees who now have access. If you go back to the first page of this thread you'll read about the change in the rules that eases access of those records for many government and non-government people.
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maporsche
 
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Reply Fri 21 Mar, 2008 09:54 pm
Butrflynet wrote:
It isn't just State Department employees who now have access. If you go back to the first page of this thread you'll read about the change in the rules that eases access of those records for many government and non-government people.


Still.....all of this data is available in SO many places that are easier to get at then a government database.

I think you'd be surprised how easy it can be to get this information if you're so inclined.
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Roxxxanne
 
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Reply Fri 21 Mar, 2008 11:01 pm
X-Inspector General Sees Political Motivation

Ex-Inspector General: 'Nefarious political purpose' behind Obama passport file breach?
David Edwards
Published: Friday March 21, 2008

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The State Department says it is trying to determine whether three contract workers had a political motive for looking at Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama's passport file.

Two of the employees were fired for the security breach and the third was disciplined but is still working, the department said Thursday night. It would not release the names of those who were fired and disciplined or the names of the two companies for which they worked. The department's inspector general is investigating.

Clark Kent Ervin, a CNN security analyst and former State Department Inspector General, told CNN that the facts surrounding the breach of Obama's passport files point to a political motivation.

Ervin was asked "as a former investigator what are the first steps in this investigation?"

"I'd have a lot of questions," Ervin said. "First question, the obvious one. Why is it these three contract employees were accessing Senator Obama's files? 'Imprudent curiosity' as it was put last night or a nefarious political purpose?"

Ervin continued, "According to the state department, senior managers learned about this from a reporter and the fact that the dates in question all have some political significance, as you just pointed out suggests to me there was a political motivation for this."

Ervin was replaced by the Bush Administration in 2004, after he "issued many critical reports about the mismanagement and security flaws at the Department of Homeland Security," ABC reported.

"Clark Ervin made himself very unpopular by issuing a series of stinging reports on security programs that he said had failed, officials he called inept, and fraud that he suspected," ABC noted in 2004. "His year-end report, out today, alleges that millions of dollars have been wasted or are unaccounted for by the department."

State Department spokesman Sean McCormack said that for now it appears that nothing other than "imprudent curiosity" was involved in three separate breaches of the Illinois senator's personal information, "but we are taking steps to reassure ourselves that that is, in fact, the case."

It is not clear whether the employees saw anything other than the basic personal data such as name, citizenship, age and place of birth that is required when a person fills out a passport application.

Bill Burton, a spokesman for Obama's presidential campaign, called for a complete investigation.

"This is an outrageous breach of security and privacy, even from an administration that has shown little regard for either over the last eight years," Burton said. "Our government's duty is to protect the private information of the American people, not use it for political purposes."

"This is a serious matter that merits a complete investigation, and we demand to know who looked at Senator Obama's passport file, for what purpose and why it took so long for them to reveal this security breach," he said.

The breaches occurred on Jan. 9, Feb. 21 and March 14 and were detected by internal State Department computer checks, McCormack said. The department's top management officer, Undersecretary Patrick Kennedy, said certain records, including those of high-profile people, are "flagged" with a computer tag that tips off supervisors when someone tries to view the records without a proper reason.

The firings and unspecified discipline of the third employee already had occurred when senior State Department officials learned of the breaches. Kennedy called that a failing.

"I will fully acknowledge this information should have been passed up the line," Kennedy told reporters in a conference call Thursday night. "It was dealt with at the office level."

In answer to a question, Kennedy said the department doesn't look into political affiliation in doing background checks on passport workers. "Now that this has arisen, this becomes a germane question, and that will be something for the appropriate investigation to look into," he said.

The department informed Obama's Senate office of the breach on Thursday. Kennedy said that at the office's request, he will provide a personal briefing for the senator's staff on Friday. No one from the State Department spoke to Obama personally on Thursday, the officials said.

Obama was born in Hawaii and lived in Indonesia for several years as a child before returning to the United States. As a member of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, he has traveled to the Middle East; the former Soviet states with Sen. Richard Lugar, R-Ind.; and Africa, where in 2006 he and his wife, Michelle, publicly took HIV tests in Kenya to encourage people there to do the same.

Obama's father was born in Kenya, and the senator still has relatives there.

The disclosure of inappropriate passport inquiries recalled an incident in 1992, when a Republican political appointee at the State Department was demoted over a search of presidential candidate Bill Clinton's passport records. At the time he was challenging President George H.W. Bush.

The State Department's inspector general said the official had helped arrange the search in an attempt to find politically damaging information about Clinton, who had been rumored to have considered renouncing his citizenship to avoid the Vietnam War draft.

The State Department said the official, Steven Berry, had shown "serious lapses in judgment."

After a three-year, $2.2 million probe, a federal independent counsel exonerated officials in the incident, saying that while some of the actions investigated were "stupid, dumb and partisan," they were not criminal. The independent counsel also said that Berry and others who were disciplined for their involvement were treated unfairly.

Doug Hattaway, a spokesman for Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton, the former first lady who is challenging Obama for the Democratic presidential nomination, said of the current breach: "It's outrageous and the Bush administration has to get to the bottom of it."

Kennedy and McCormack said it was too soon to say whether a crime was committed. The searches may violate the federal Privacy Act, and Kennedy said he is consulting State Department lawyers.

The State Department inspector general's power is limited because two of the employees are no longer working for the department. McCormack said it was premature to consider whether the FBI or Justice Department should be involved.

McCormack said Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice was informed of the breaches on Thursday.
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revel
 
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Reply Sat 22 Mar, 2008 07:19 am
maporsche wrote:
Butrflynet wrote:
It isn't just State Department employees who now have access. If you go back to the first page of this thread you'll read about the change in the rules that eases access of those records for many government and non-government people.


Still.....all of this data is available in SO many places that are easier to get at then a government database.

I think you'd be surprised how easy it can be to get this information if you're so inclined.


Then why did they bother to do in Obama's case three different times and as recently as last week? There must of been something there they really wanted to find out.
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maporsche
 
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Reply Sat 22 Mar, 2008 07:23 am
revel wrote:
maporsche wrote:
Butrflynet wrote:
It isn't just State Department employees who now have access. If you go back to the first page of this thread you'll read about the change in the rules that eases access of those records for many government and non-government people.


Still.....all of this data is available in SO many places that are easier to get at then a government database.

I think you'd be surprised how easy it can be to get this information if you're so inclined.


Then why did they bother to do in Obama's case three different times and as recently as last week? There must of been something there they really wanted to find out.



Like I said earlier.....Obama is a rock star now, people will look up popular people out of curiosity. I mentioned that I work for a credit card company...our lower level customer service-type employees will often try to look up celebrities accounts (so much that we've had to install special systems in place to ensure that this cannot happen) but it tracks every time someone tries (and it's a lot).

I wonder if Obama has a CC with our company. I'm sure many employees have tried to look.
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nappyheadedhohoho
 
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Reply Sat 22 Mar, 2008 08:43 am
Maybe someone wanted to see if he was with Rezko on any of those 26 trips to Syria.
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nappyheadedhohoho
 
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Reply Sat 22 Mar, 2008 12:22 pm
The third employee, who has not been fired, worked for The Analysis Corporation (TAC), which is headed by John O. Brennan, a former CIA agent who is an adviser to Mr. Obama's presidential campaign on intelligence and foreign policy.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080322/NATION/243762495/1001
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Sat 22 Mar, 2008 12:36 pm
The WashingtonTimes reports that he advises Obama on intelligence and foreign policy matters. Right?


And what about Stanley Inc?
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hawkeye10
 
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Reply Sat 22 Mar, 2008 12:48 pm
Stanley is owned by a loyal and financially active republican
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Sat 22 Mar, 2008 12:53 pm
I know. But that is just something minor ...
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