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Which verb should be used?

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Yoong Liat
 
Reply Mon 17 Mar, 2008 11:09 am
Diners have to till 2 p.m. before the restaurant opens/is opened for business.

Which verb should I use? I believe it should be 'is opened'.

Many thanks.
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Setanta
 
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Reply Mon 17 Mar, 2008 11:15 am
Either one is acceptable usage.
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Region Philbis
 
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Reply Mon 17 Mar, 2008 11:25 am
a better sentence would be:

Diners have to wait until 2 p.m. for the restaurant to open for business.
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joefromchicago
 
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Reply Mon 17 Mar, 2008 11:29 am
Region Philbis wrote:
a better sentence would be:

Diners have to wait until 2 p.m. for the restaurant to open for business.

An even better sentence would be: "The restaurant opens at 2:00 p.m. So quit banging on the doors trying to get in before then, you freakin' morons!"
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Chai
 
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Reply Mon 17 Mar, 2008 11:41 am
Yeah, and then you would turn back to your co-workers and say "Do you believe these people?"
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Yoong Liat
 
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Reply Mon 17 Mar, 2008 12:43 pm
Hi guys

Thanks for your replies.
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Chai
 
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Reply Mon 17 Mar, 2008 12:44 pm
oh you're welcome, glad I could help!
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contrex
 
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Reply Mon 17 Mar, 2008 04:43 pm
Personally, i would say that a restaurant "opened for business" when it first welcomed customers.

The Hungry Hawg opened for business on January 24th 1989.

The Hungry Hawg opens at 8 PM every night.
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McTag
 
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Reply Mon 17 Mar, 2008 05:12 pm
Contrex is right.
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Yoong Liat
 
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Reply Mon 17 Mar, 2008 10:19 pm
Hi Contrex and Mc Tag

Just to confirm that the verb should be 'is opened'.

Diners have to till 2 p.m. before the restaurant is opened for business.

Sorry for asking the same question twice.

Many thanks to both of you.

Best wishes
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Roberta
 
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Reply Tue 18 Mar, 2008 01:54 am
Nope, not "is opened." It's "is open for business."
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McTag
 
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Reply Tue 18 Mar, 2008 03:22 am
Or simply, "until the restaurant opens".
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Yoong Liat
 
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Reply Tue 18 Mar, 2008 07:27 am
contrex wrote:
Personally, i would say that a restaurant "opened for business" when it first welcomed customers.

The Hungry Hawg opened for business on January 24th 1989.

The Hungry Hawg opens at 8 PM every night.


My apologies for not having read your answer properly, and asking what you've clearly stated.
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JTT
 
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Reply Tue 18 Mar, 2008 09:07 pm
Re: Which verb should be used?
Yoong Liat wrote:


Diners have to wait till 2 p.m. before the restaurant opens/is opened for business.

Which verb should I use? I believe it should be 'is opened'.

Many thanks.


contrex wrote:
Personally, i would say that a restaurant "opened for business" when it first welcomed customers.

The Hungry Hawg opened for business on January 24th 1989.

The Hungry Hawg opens at 8 PM every night.


That's an interesting aside, Contrex, but the active form "opened" wasn't even a choice.

As Setanta said, both of YL's suggestions are acceptable.

I believe that the passive form 'is opened' would be less common.
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McTag
 
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Reply Tue 18 Mar, 2008 11:00 pm
Oh goody, another dispute!

Contrex's remark was helpful, as it was intended to be, pointing out that "opening for business" is a once-only event, normally.
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JTT
 
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Reply Wed 19 Mar, 2008 12:06 am
McTag wrote:
Oh goody, another dispute!

Contrex's remark was helpful, as it was intended to be, pointing out that "opening for business" is a once-only event, normally.


And that was duly noted, McTag.

"That's an interesting aside, Contrex,"
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contrex
 
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Reply Wed 19 Mar, 2008 01:15 am
More JTT silliness.
Rolling Eyes
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JTT
 
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Reply Wed 19 Mar, 2008 09:24 am
contrex wrote:
More JTT silliness.
Rolling Eyes


More Contrex unable to discuss the pertinent language issues.
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McTag
 
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Reply Thu 20 Mar, 2008 03:38 am
JTT wrote:
contrex wrote:
More JTT silliness.
Rolling Eyes


More Contrex unable to discuss the pertinent language issues.



I see some measure of independent adjudication is called for here.

The bench finds contrex's remark pertinent and helpful.

JTT's remark was arch, unnecessarily disputatious, and compounded by an attempt at cover-up.

The bench finds for contrex in this case, with costs awarded against JTT.
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Yoong Liat
 
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Reply Thu 20 Mar, 2008 05:33 am
Hi Mc Tag

I didn't know there was a judge in 'Grammar Court' and you are one of the judges.
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