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Thank you, Eliot Spitzer !!

 
 
Joe Nation
 
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Reply Sun 16 Mar, 2008 07:03 am
Oh, you are absolutely right, Dadpad, I was only thinking about the bottom line of the attorney's bill while I was distracted thinking about Kristen's bottom.

What is the percentage taken home by the member of the bar from the $450 per hour fee?

Joe(is it enough to pay the rent on a Chelsea NYC apartment? yes. )Nation
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flyboy804
 
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Reply Sun 16 Mar, 2008 08:33 am
Joe Nation wrote:
Initial reports were, are still are, confused. The total cost of the evening was about $4000.oo, but that included several items not related to what should be referred to as the labor fee.

These include train (not air?!) fare roundtrip, taxis, the hotel room and the open bar for a full twelve hours and other fees to the pimp, er, booking agent and the money transfer agency (shell corporation, yes, but still the pimp.

The remainder, approximately - I have not been able to divine from news report the exact amounts paid (these news reporters seem to be focusing not so much on the economics of this enterprise for some odd reason.) amounts to between $1000 and $1200 dollars (US). Of that, the laborer must share 50% to her slaveholder, er, employer. She is entitled to keep any "tips" offered by the client.

So, let's best case this: she gets $600.oo in fees and let's say a 25% tip from Mr. Sometimes Asks to Do Things That You Might Not Think Are Safe.

Thats - (mmm .25 X 6.....move the decimal point.....) a total of $750.00 but let's remember that the worker had to leave her New York apt, travel to Washington and return about 14 hours later.

She was on the road more than she was on the mattress.

If we are generous about the time she may have spent sleeping (6 hours) that still leaves her making a little less than a $100.00 an hour which, if my chart from the US Census is correct, is way less than what the divorce attorney will charge but still more then any person who makes econometric models makes.

Joe(all funds received, including tips, should be reported on her Quarterly Tax Forms. ... right.)Nation

You're making him out to be a cheapskate. He should be tipping 25% of the gross ($1000-$1200) not the $600 net,. That would be $250-$300 not $150.
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noinipo
 
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Reply Sun 16 Mar, 2008 11:09 am
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BillW
 
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Reply Sun 16 Mar, 2008 11:41 am
If they are gonna charge Spitzer, then they gotta charge others. Their names will be released at that point.
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Francis
 
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Reply Sun 16 Mar, 2008 11:49 am
BillW wrote:
If they are gonna charge Spitzer, then they gotta charge others.


Why so? You don't know if they, like Spitzer, violated the Mann act..

Otherwise, on which grounds can them be charged?
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hamburger
 
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Reply Sun 16 Mar, 2008 11:56 am
nimh wrote :

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Although the Emperors Club VIP website did say, "Inquire about our weekend and multiple day travel package rates!" So mebbe they'd have thrown in a thousand dollar off.


weekend stays usually include a "free continental breakfast" Laughing
hbg
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BillW
 
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Reply Sun 16 Mar, 2008 11:59 am
Francis wrote:
BillW wrote:
If they are gonna charge Spitzer, then they gotta charge others.


Why so? You don't know if they, like Spitzer, violated the Mann act..

Otherwise, on which grounds can them be charged?


It becomes too political..............It is already raising eyebrows.
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BillW
 
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Reply Sun 16 Mar, 2008 12:07 pm
Let me expand a little:

1. It is known that Bush fired prosecutors because they wouldn't bring him Dems. This cost him Gonzo.

2. The head of the FBI testified on the Hill last week concerning the fact his has neither the manpower nor the $ to investigate violent crimes, rapes, murders; ie, thier chief duties.

3. The FBI normally does not investigate prostitution.

4. Spitzer is a Dem ~ hated by all, but still a Dem.

5. If there are any big name Rep in this group of "Clients", the Dems will want them out. If they aren't revealed, they will force them to be reveal.

6. There is a chance that this is more selective targeting from the WH.

Eyebrows are raised, and investigations are running as we speak.
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hamburger
 
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Reply Sun 16 Mar, 2008 04:13 pm
remember heidi fleiss , the hollywood madam , and her little black book ?
that little black book seems to have disappeared .
i bet the client list of the emporor's club will not likely be appearing in open court anytime soon either .
hbg

HEIDI FLEISS
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Joe Nation
 
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Reply Mon 17 Mar, 2008 04:06 am
Francis asked:
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Why so? You don't know if they, like Spitzer, violated the Mann act..

Otherwise, on which grounds can them be charged?


Ah, mon ami, we are not as you are in France so free as to allow any nookie-nookie to be performed wherein money is exchanged. Except in the Great State of Nevada where the tourist johns are allowed to bang away their dollars, prostitution is illegal in the USA. They can charge him with soliciting a prostitute, charge the "escort service" with providing one, and charge the prostitute with, er, um, being a prostitute. You can't do that here.

In fact, Francis, in one of the most ironic parts of this whole affair, a part that will fill shelves of future libraries with the writings of both student and professional psychological and legal scholars, one of the most stringent "anti-john" laws was recently introduced, passed by the legislature and signed into law. This law was an effort to find ways of cracking down hard on those men who would attempt to engage in the unmistakably immoral act of obtaining sex for money while in the equally Great State of New York. It increased the penalty for such acts to really put some teeth into punishing these miscreants.

Three guesses who was the governor who pushed really hard for the passage of that law..... .

His initials are E liot S pitzer

Joe(There's a picture of him signing it into law in the Daily News. doh)Nation
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nimh
 
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Reply Mon 17 Mar, 2008 07:22 pm
Senator Vitter (R-La.) would just like you to know: there is an enormous difference" between Spitzer's case and his.

What it is, isnt exactly clear.

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Vitter sees no comparison

Sen. David Vitter, R-La., has been mostly mum on the prostitution scandal that forced Democratic New York Gov. Eliot Spitzer to announce his resignation last week. But Vitter let down his guard a bit in a conference call with constituents. Scott Jordan, editor of the Independent Weekly of Lafayette, said he was able to ask Vitter whether he would resign after his phone number was connected last year to a Washington, D.C., escort service that federal investigators say was a call-girl operation. "I have made a very serious mistake a long time ago and I have to live with that every day," Vitter said, according to Jordan's account. "That's not a flippant statement. I need to spend my whole life making up for that." According to Jordan, Vitter turned "a bit defiant" and added: "Anybody who looks at the two cases will see there is an enormous difference between the two of them. The people that are trying to draw comparisons to the two cases are people who've never agreed with me on important issues like immigration and other things."


A comment:

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Senator Vitter: "there is an enormous difference" between Spitzer's case and mine

Well, both cases involving prostitution. One key difference between Spitzer and Vitter is that Vitter is still holding public office.

Last July, CREW filed a Senate Ethics Complaint against Sen. Vitter. We're still waiting for action on that.

Last week, the National Republican Congressional Committee called on Democrats to return contributions from Gov. Spitzer, but no similar call has been made for Republicans to return contributions from Sen. Vitter. Here's a link to a list of those campaigns that have received campaign contributions from Sen. Vitter.
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Noddy24
 
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Reply Tue 18 Mar, 2008 04:54 am
Perhaps Vitter is judging by the price-per-pound of pulchritude?

Rhinestones vs. diamonds?
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Joe Nation
 
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Reply Wed 19 Mar, 2008 03:41 am
Most men do not like to point out the 'enormous difference" between themselves and other men unless it's in their favor.

Wait a minute.

That's not difference we're speaking of, right?

Joe(Football and life: Two games of inches)Nation
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BillW
 
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Reply Wed 19 Mar, 2008 12:51 pm
Vitter sees no comparison

Sen. David Vitter, R-La., has been mostly mum on the prostitution scandal that forced Democratic New York Gov. Eliot Spitzer to announce his resignation last week. But Vitter let down his guard a bit in a conference call with constituents. Scott Jordan, editor of the Independent Weekly of Lafayette, said he was able to ask Vitter whether he would resign after his phone number was connected last year to a Washington, D.C., escort service that federal investigators say was a call-girl operation. "I have made a very serious mistake a long time ago and I have to live with that every day," Vitter said, according to Jordan's account. "That's not a flippant statement. I need to spend my whole life making up for that." According to Jordan, Vitter turned "a bit defiant" and added: "Anybody who looks at the two cases will see there is an enormous difference between the two of them. The people that are trying to draw comparisons to the two cases are people who've never agreed with me on important issues like immigration and other things."


Yeah, ones a Dem and the others a Repuke, big difference
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nimh
 
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Reply Wed 19 Mar, 2008 05:13 pm
Comment on Vitter's claim that his case was just different:

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Spitzer was a spendthrift, big-city liberal, whereas Vitter exercised much more restraint as to how much he spent on each of his trysts with hookers.

Posted by Elvis Elvisberg
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BillW
 
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Reply Wed 19 Mar, 2008 05:26 pm
Razz Laughing Cool Rolling Eyes Shocked
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BillW
 
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Reply Thu 15 May, 2008 07:24 pm
Wink Surprised Smile Rolling Eyes Shocked
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glitterbag
 
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Reply Mon 19 May, 2008 10:15 pm
I hope I can spell this correctiley,Gasp)Then noises that indicact violent stomach uprest.
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Joe Nation
 
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Reply Tue 20 May, 2008 04:14 am
The problem with both of them is that they don't have family values, excuse me, Family Values. Consorting with prostitutes indeed!! hmmmph.


Meanwhile, Vito Fossella, the only Republican from New York City in Congress shows how it is done.
He done with some lady named Fay.
She was on some Congressional trips with him. I think they dood it several times or at least enough times for Ms. Fay to produce a baby girl three years ago.
I'm sure it was a surprise baby.
It sure was a surprise to Mr. Fossela's wife and other three children.

And it was a surprise to Ms. Fay's neighbors who thought the couple were a couple. (Mr. Fossella tried to drive to Ms. Fay's house after he'd had more than a couple, he was arrested for DWI a couple of blocks from their little lovenest which is how all this other stuff, babies and babes, came out.)

Joe(So, Vito, how was your day?)Nation
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