AMERICAN CONSERVATISM IN 2008 AND BEYOND

Ican and Okie, it seems Obama's domestic agenda has always been aimed at the overall goal of increased (if not total) governmental control of every aspect of American life. But if this view is accepted, the question still must be asked as to why he has, not only, pushed this agenda so hard, so soon, and on so many fronts but continues to do so (presently on Universal health care) despite the wishes of a majority of Americans and a decrease in personal popularity and his job approval ratings even to the point of total a disregard for his political future.

1. Total government control? Why didn't Obama nationalize the banks if he wants total control?
2. If he has pushed this agenda so hard, explain your answer to question 1.

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http://www.nea.org/tools/17231.htm
Saul Alinsky wrote the book on American radicalism - two books, in fact: a 1945 best-seller, "Reveille for Radicals" and "Rules for Radicals" in 1971.

Saul Alinsky spends a lot of time critiquing the idea that "The end does not justify the means." What end? What means? He feels that there are circumstances where one can and should use means that in other circumstances would be unethical.

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Community_organizing
1940 to 1960
Saul Alinsky, based in Chicago, is credited with originating the term community organizer during this time period. Alinsky wrote Reveille for Radicals, published in 1946, and Rules for Radicals, published in 1971. With these books, Alinsky was the first person in America to codify key strategies and aims of community organizing. He also founded the first national community organizing training network, the Industrial Areas Foundation, now led by one of his former lieutenants, Edward Chambers.[14]

GEORGE SOROS in his 1995 book, page 145, [I]Soros on Soros[/I], wrote:

I do not accept the rules imposed by others. If I did, I would not be alive today. I am a law-abiding citizen, but I recognize that there are regimes that need to be opposed rather than accepted. And in periods of regime change, the normal rules don't apply. One needs to adjust one's behavior to the changing circumstances.

GEORGE SOROS on June 10, 2004 to the Associated Press, wrote:

These are not normal times.

GEORGE SOROS in his 2004 book, page 159, [I]The Bubble of American Supremacy[/I], wrote:

The principles of the Declaration of Independence are not self-evident truths but arrangements necessitated by our inherently imperfect understanding.

Taliban attacks paralyze Afghan capital for hours (AP)

An Afghan police officer aims his weapon at the scene of attack in central Kabul, Afghanistan, Monday, Jan. 18, 2010. Taliban militants struck the heart of the Afghan government in Kabul on Monday, prompting fierce gunbattles after a suicide bomber blew himself up near the presidential palace. (AP Photo/Ahmad Massoud)AP - Taliban militants wearing explosive vests launched a brazen daylight assault Monday on the center of Kabul, with suicide bombings and gunbattles near the presidential palace and other government buildings that paralyzed the city for hours.

It's an obsession to pass legislation that the country voted you in to pass?

This is almost as bad as the Nobel prize award idiocy. Can't you guys pretend for a second that you have any knowledge or experience at all with the history of US governance and how it works?

Cycloptichorn

Perhaps Cyclo would like to refresh us with the current state of his predictions for the new health care legislation which he asserted would give us Democrat majorities for another generation. As I recall the initial prediction was for Health care legislation, containing a public option, signed by the presidfent, by October 2009.......

I have concluded that a Brown win (if it occurs) in Massachusetts will be a hidden blessing for President Obama, permitting him to back away from this grotesque piece of legislation, and do a mid course correction somewhat like Clinton's during his first term.

Far from ensuring the permanent Democrat majority that you have forecast, I believe this awful legislation will, if passed, continue to damage the Democrat Party for a long time to come.

The new taxes and increases in the costs for health insurance that will surely result will begin immediately, while the benefits to new entrants will be delayed for several years -- all as part of the deceptive ruse to lower the forecast net cost over the first ten years and thereby support the lie that the legislation will be "deficit neutral". Later as people discover the clumsy hand of government in the various insurance exchanges and the enormous unfunded financial burdens deceptively transferred to the states through the expamded MEDICAID program, the resistence and dissatisfaction will grow.

Whatever the outcome in today's election, Democrat Congressmen will become even more anxious about their political futures. I believe that, even with a Coakley win the unlovable duo of Pelosi and Reid will have a very hard time keeping their tribe together -perhaps requiring a few more backroom deals and bribes.

Hey dummy; yeah, that's you, ican, okie, and JM; what has Obama and the congress done to control our lives? Name us one?

I have concluded that a Brown win (if it occurs) in Massachusetts will be a hidden blessing for President Obama, permitting him to back away from this grotesque piece of legislation, and do a mid course correction somewhat like Clinton's during his first term.

the biggest tax increase in US history is coming and it was passed by a GOP congress and signed by a GOP President. No one to blame BUT the GOP on that one unless you want to make your usual illogical arguments.

ftp://ftp.bls.gov/pub/suppl/empsit.cpseea1.txt
Total employment in the USA in:
December 2006 = 144,427,000
December 2007 = 146,047,000 (maximum total employment in USA history)
December 2008 = 143,338,000
http://www.bls.gov/news.release/pdf/empsit.pdf
December 2009 = 137,792,000