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AMERICAN CONSERVATISM IN 2008 AND BEYOND

 
 
ican711nm
 
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Reply Wed 18 Nov, 2009 03:03 pm
@cicerone imposter,
cicerone imposter wrote:
I agree; foxie couldn't support her claims any more than okie or ican. She always stuck with her definition of MAC even though there is no such animal.

Foxfyre's defense of her allegations were valid. She supplied more than adequate evidence to support her allegations. Her error was in responding to the libels of her here expressed by WEalth REDistributors ... more accurately, COVETERS.

Foxfyre defined MAC and declared herself a MAC. I also declared myself a MAC. A large number of TEA Party members have declared themselves advocates of exactly what MAC advocate.
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ican711nm
 
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Reply Wed 18 Nov, 2009 03:12 pm
@Cycloptichorn,
Cycloptichorn wrote:
The GOP takes turns, it was McCain's turn in 08, it's Romney's turn in 2012.

I bet Sarah Palin will not only be the Republican candidate for president in 2012, she will be elected president in 2012.

She certainly is far superior to a fool and/or fraud like Barack Obama.
djjd62
 
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Reply Wed 18 Nov, 2009 03:14 pm
@ican711nm,
and given her record she resigns three years in
ican711nm
 
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Reply Wed 18 Nov, 2009 03:51 pm
@djjd62,
Sarah Palin resigned as governor of Alaska, because she was being constantly harassed by a constant stream of phony allegations by the COVETERS that required her to defend herself and diverted her excessively from her governance of Alaska. In a recent interview, she said she believed that the Lieutenant Governor could do a better job for Alaska than she under those circumstances.

She's that rare politician who should be celebrated for her greater devotion to those who elected her than to her personal desire to hold political power!
Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Wed 18 Nov, 2009 03:58 pm
@ican711nm,
ican711nm wrote:

Cycloptichorn wrote:
The GOP takes turns, it was McCain's turn in 08, it's Romney's turn in 2012.

I bet Sarah Palin will not only be the Republican candidate for president in 2012, she will be elected president in 2012.

She certainly is far superior to a fool and/or fraud like Barack Obama.


I would mortgage myself to the hilt to take that bet; and if you truly offer it, you're a fool, Ican. The lady cannot complete a single paragraph without making herself look like an idiot. Obama would crush her in a campaign. You may also want to take a look at Palin's approval ratings, they are in the toilet, even amongst Republicans and Conservatives.

I'll just file this with the many other failed predictions you have made...

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Sarah Palin resigned as governor of Alaska, because she was being constantly harassed by a constant stream of phony allegations by the COVETERS that required her to defend herself and diverted her excessively from her governance of Alaska.


This is a lie. She resigned in order to make money off of book deals and speaking engagements. How ******* gullible can you be, Ican?

Cycloptichorn
djjd62
 
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Reply Wed 18 Nov, 2009 04:06 pm
@ican711nm,
well ican drank the kool-aid
Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Wed 18 Nov, 2009 04:09 pm
@djjd62,
djjd62 wrote:

well ican drank the kool-aid


Dude, he MIXES the kool-aid up and makes it a mission to get others to drink too..

Cycloptichorn
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Wed 18 Nov, 2009 05:51 pm
@Cycloptichorn,
ican wrote:
Quote:
I bet Sarah Palin will not only be the Republican candidate for president in 2012, she will be elected president in 2012.


Elected president in 2012? You got your bet: I'm in to challenge you!
parados
 
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Reply Wed 18 Nov, 2009 07:02 pm
@ican711nm,
Quote:

She's that rare politician who should be celebrated for her greater devotion to those who elected her than to her personal desire to hold political power!

Wait.. So the best thing to do is resign and not serve in the office the voters elected you to? Resigning shows devotion to those that voted for her?

Vote for me because my Lt Governor can do a better job so I will resign... Now that's a catch phrase the GOP can get behind.




Or maybe it can be.. "Vote for me because someone else can do it better!"
ican711nm
 
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Reply Thu 19 Nov, 2009 01:39 pm
Barack Obama and his gang are crooks. They are in the process of disasembling and replacing our Constitutional Republic with a government controlled redistribution of wealth.

Sarah Palin is in the process of trying to help rescue, restore and secure our Constitutional Republic. Compared to Obama's ignorance, incompetence and fraud, Palin is a completly honest genius.

Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Thu 19 Nov, 2009 01:45 pm
@ican711nm,
ican711nm wrote:

Barack Obama and his gang are crooks. They are in the process of disasembling and replacing our Constitutional Republic with a government controlled redistribution of wealth.


No, they are not. This is a paranoid fantasy of yours.

To prove it, I will remind you that nothing Obama or the Dems are proposing cannot be rescinded or changed through further legislation. That's hardly a dictatorship; it's Democracy WORKING. Enough people disagree with you that the group who wants to run things a different way got elected; that's not a sign of a problem, other than for you, Ican.

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Sarah Palin is in the process of trying to help rescue, restore and secure our Constitutional Republic. Compared to Obama's ignorance, incompetence and fraud, Palin is a completly honest genius.


Laughing Very Happy Laughing Drunk I don't even know how to meaningfully respond to this. Then again, you loved Bush for years, so why not love his spiritual successor - another vapid Republican politician who can't answer a single question with logic, or demonstrate anything but the most shallow understanding of modern issues.

Cycloptichorn
ican711nm
 
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Reply Thu 19 Nov, 2009 01:46 pm
@cicerone imposter,
cicerone imposter wrote:
{Palin} Elected president in 2012? You got your bet: I'm in to challenge you!

Your keyboarding is cheap and unconvincing!
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ican711nm
 
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Reply Thu 19 Nov, 2009 02:01 pm
@Cycloptichorn,
Cycloptichorn wrote:
I don't even know how to meaningfully respond to this. Then again, you loved Bush for years, so why not love his spiritual successor - another vapid Republican politician who can't answer a single question with logic, or demonstrate anything but the most shallow understanding of modern issues.

The evidence is mounting that "you don't even know how to meaningfully respond to" anything.

Again!

I never loved Bush! Therefore, I do "not love his spiritual successor " and massive amplifyer, Barack Obama.

Obama is rapidly expanding Bush's debt creation, expansion and redistribution of wealth, all the while he pretends to be rescuing America from Bush's debt creation, expansion and redistribution of wealth.

The supporters of Obama are Coveters driven with great passion by their preprogrammed covetous dementia.
Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Thu 19 Nov, 2009 02:30 pm
@ican711nm,
Quote:

I never loved Bush!


Bullshit. For years, you defended practically every action he took here on A2K. You castigated his opponents and those of us who opposed his poor management and supported the vast majority of policy decisions he made. You can try and run from your history now but we all remember, even if you are too old to.

Let me make it perfectly clear, that I covet nothing you have, Ican. Nothing at all. I don't need anything more from you or the government or anyone else. And what makes you think I do?

Cycloptichorn
ican711nm
 
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Reply Thu 19 Nov, 2009 04:50 pm
@Cycloptichorn,
Again!
I never loved Bush!
Cycloptichorn wrote:
Bullshit. For years, you defended practically every action he took here on A2K. You castigated his opponents and those of us who opposed his poor management and supported the vast majority of policy decisions he made. You can try and run from your history now but we all remember, even if you are too old to.

Let me make it perfectly clear, that I covet nothing you have, Ican. Nothing at all. I don't need anything more from you or the government or anyone else. And what makes you think I do?

That allegation of yours is worth less than pig puke!

Either your memory is terribly defective, or you are lying. I appraised Bush as the least worst candidate compared to Gore and Kerry.The only things I defended about George Bush were specifically his:
(1) invasion of Afghanistan;
(2) invasion of Iraq;
(3) Irag surge tactics;
(4) income tax cuts;
(5) forceful questioning of terrorist captives;
(6) intelligence gathering methods;
(7) removal of steel tariffs.

I strongly opposed George Bush's:
(a) Initial Iraq occupation tactics;
(b) Afghanistan occupation tactics;
(c) so-called "compassionate conservatism";
(d) domestic spending programs (e.g., TARP);
(e) inadequate efforts to persuade Congress to stop Fannie and Freddie from granting loans to those who cannot afford to pay for them;
(f) support for RINO candidates for election to Congress;
(g) increases in farm subsidies;
(h) initial approval of imported steel tariffs;
(i) tolerance of illegal immigration;
(j) tolerance of the arrest and conviction of US border guards who shot an illegal alien in the butt, and failure to quickly pardon them.

The only reason you covet nothing of what I have is because I have less than you do. Despite your denial, your support of the Obama Administration's programs marks you a coveter of what those people who have more than you have.
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http://unabridged.merriam-webster.com/cgi-bin/unabridged?va=covet&x=24&y=10
Main Entry: cov·et
...
transitive verb
1 : to wish for earnestly : crave possession or enjoyment of : long for
...
2 : to desire (another's possession or attribute) inordinately or culpably
...
intransitive verb : to feel or cherish inordinate desire or craving for another's possession or attributes
...

The 1oth Commandment:
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Thou shalt not covet thy neighbour’s house; thou shall not covet thy neighbour’s wife, nor his man servant, nor his maid-servant, nor his ox, nor his ass, nor anything that is thy neighbour’s.
Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Thu 19 Nov, 2009 05:13 pm
@ican711nm,
Quote:

The only reason you covet nothing of what I have is because I have less than you do.


Laughing

How can you possibly believe that this is true?

Cycloptichorn
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Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Thu 19 Nov, 2009 05:21 pm
Also,

Quote:


I strongly opposed George Bush's:
(a) Initial Iraq occupation tactics;
(b) Afghanistan occupation tactics;
(c) so-called "compassionate conservatism";
(d) domestic spending programs (e.g., TARP);
(e) inadequate efforts to persuade Congress to stop Fannie and Freddie from granting loans to those who cannot afford to pay for them;
(f) support for RINO candidates for election to Congress;
(g) increases in farm subsidies;
(h) initial approval of imported steel tariffs;
(i) tolerance of illegal immigration;
(j) tolerance of the arrest and conviction of US border guards who shot an illegal alien in the butt, and failure to quickly pardon them.


I do not believe you 'strongly opposed' these things. You may have opposed them, but you barely mentioned it here on A2K; you certainly did not start threads or go on and on about Bush's incompetence and his failures on these issues. You may have mentioned them a few times, but that is it.

Nope. You didn't strongly oppose anything Bush did. You approved of the vast majority of actions he took. You certainly never called him Incompetent, as you are fond of doing with Obama...

Your attempts at revisionist history fall rather flat in the face of the memories of those of us who have engaged you for years, Ican.

Cycloptichorn
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djjd62
 
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Reply Thu 19 Nov, 2009 05:22 pm
@ican711nm,
the 10 commandments have nothing to do with politics
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ehBeth
 
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Reply Thu 19 Nov, 2009 05:27 pm
@parados,
parados wrote:

Quote:

She's that rare politician who should be celebrated for her greater devotion to those who elected her than to her personal desire to hold political power!

Wait.. So the best thing to do is resign and not serve in the office the voters elected you to? Resigning shows devotion to those that voted for her?

Vote for me because my Lt Governor can do a better job so I will resign... Now that's a catch phrase the GOP can get behind.


too much of a classic to only be seen once.

thanks, parados. this really made my early evening Laughing




Or maybe it can be.. "Vote for me because someone else can do it better!"
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ican711nm
 
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Reply Thu 19 Nov, 2009 06:03 pm
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For Immediate Release: November 19, 2009
Carter Pushes Bill to Move New York Terrorist Trials back to Military Courts
(WASHINGTON, DC) " Khalid Sheikh Mohammed and other foreign terrorists should be tried by military commissions, not civilian criminal courts, according to new legislation introduced by Congressman Louie Gohmert (R-TX01) and supported by John Carter (R-TX31).
“The acts perpetrated by these prisoners were acts of war by foreign nationals,” says Carter, like Gohmert, a former Texas state judge. “Trying these cases in civilian U.S. courts is not just legally inappropriate, but a reckless endangerment of public safety and the intelligence resources of the United States.”
Carter today co-sponsored Gohmert’s bill which amends the Military Commissions Act of 2009 to make it mandatory that all alien unprivileged enemy belligerents subject to trial stand trial in a military commission, not in civilian court.
Mohammed and his co-conspirators were originally charged in a military commission, as was approved by Congress and the federal courts. While Attorney General Eric holder has confirmed he will use military commissions to try other Guantanamo prisoners, he moved the Mohammed case to civilian court in New York City, where it will be subject to civil court rules that may force public disclosure of critical U.S. intelligence resources.

 

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