AMERICAN CONSERVATISM IN 2008 AND BEYOND

Have any of these jokers provided any evidence that health insurance premiums in Tejas have decreased? No? Somebody send me a PM if that happens . . .

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September 10, 2009
Analysis of President Obama’s Speech to Congress on Healthcare
Analysis of President Obama’s Speech to Congress on Healthcare
From Tennessee Center for Policy Research
September 10, 2009


Based on a compilation of independent sources, the Tennessee Center for Policy Research has analyzed President Obama’s September 9th speech to a joint session of Congress outlining his new healthcare plan. That analysis is below:


The President Said: “Buying insurance on your own costs you three times as much as the coverage you get from your employer."

The Reality Is: “Premiums for employment-based plans are expected to average about $5,000 per year for single coverage and about $13,000 per year for family coverage in 2009. Premiums for policies purchased in the individual insurance market are, on average, much lower"about one-third lower for single coverage and one-half lower for family policies.” 1

The President Said: “There are now more than thirty million American citizens who cannot get [health insurance] coverage.”

The Reality Is: As many as 75% of the uninsured could afford coverage, meaning that less than 10 million uninsured Americans may be unable to afford coverage. 2

On the topic of indoctrination, I think that people like Fox simply object to children being told it's okay to like Obama. People such as Fox are not interested in their children (and by the looks of it, other people's children) having positive thoughts about him. Rather, it seems, the problem stems from the fact that those screaming "indoctrination" from the tallest hill in town are the same ones attempting to indoctrinate children into contempt for the president.

It is far more socially acceptable for them to rally against the general idea of "indoctrination" than specifically the president, because then they feel as if they are defending some sort of liberty and it makes them feel morally superior (and even persecuted).

This is just another irony wasted on Fox.
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When forced to go on record by Republicans, Congress overwhelmingly approved a proposal to cut off all federal taxpayer funding from ACORN. Now we have to make sure that bill becomes law.

. . . while it's good news that most Democrats voted with us to shut off ACORN's stream of tax dollars, the proposal passed as a rider on their costly government takeover of student loans. As long as it's attached to that flawed bill, Democratic leaders can hold it hostage - and go on funneling tax dollars to ACORN.

No, I'm not comparing President Obama to Hitler but you have to admit, the similarity is more than a bit creepy.

the writer of the piece was quite clear that he was not comparing Obama to Hitler

Foxfyre, quoting Leo Shishmanian wrote:

No, I'm not comparing President Obama to Hitler but you have to admit, the similarity is more than a bit creepy.

Foxfyre wrote:

the writer of the piece was quite clear that he was not comparing Obama to Hitler

Pointing out a similarity between A and B constitutes a comparison of A to B.

Denying that you're doing it constitutes a denial. It doesn't negate the fact that you've made a comparison.

It can be a way to point out that both use similar engineering strategy to accomplish a similar, not identical end result, but it does not presume that the goals are the same.

I have no doubt, what-so-ever, that those of defending Obama would be screaming from the tallest mountains if Bush were to have tried half the crap Obama has done. Nationalize the auto industry? FASCISTS!!! Speak to the children? OUTRAGEOUS!!!!

Same games, different President.

Foxfyre wrote:

It can be a way to point out that both use similar engineering strategy to accomplish a similar, not identical end result, but it does not presume that the goals are the same.

That doesn't change the fact that you're making a comparison.

You don't have to say "A is like B" to make a comparison. Saying that A has absolutely nothing in common with B is making a comparison between A and B.

At least the principle of the school recognized that this was just wrong and has issued an apology.

But the ones screaming "Godwin's Law" see it as comparing Obama to Hitler. The intellectually honest see it as comparing strategies to accomplish goals, however different such goals might be.

This is more than a bit frightening. It is not very far removed from the education of the Hitler Youth. No, I'm not comparing President Obama to Hitler but you have to admit, the similarity is more than a bit creepy.

Spies, Lies and Wiretaps

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A bit over a week ago, President Bush and his men promised to provide the legal, constitutional and moral justifications for the sort of warrantless spying on Americans that has been illegal for nearly 30 years. Instead, we got the familiar mix of political spin, clumsy historical misinformation, contemptuous dismissals of civil liberties concerns, cynical attempts to paint dissents as anti-American and pro-terrorist, and a couple of big, dangerous lies.

But the ones screaming "Godwin's Law" see it as comparing Obama to Hitler.

The intellectually honest see it as comparing strategies to accomplish goals, however different such goals might be.

Really? Really? I have no doubt, what-so-ever, that those of defending Obama would be screaming from the tallest mountains if Bush were to have tried half the crap Obama has done. Nationalize the auto industry? FASCISTS!!! Speak to the children? OUTRAGEOUS!!!!