AMERICAN CONSERVATISM IN 2008 AND BEYOND

@ican711nm,

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Yes, Parados, the FDIC is unconstitutional when making loans or insuring loans for people who are neither federal government employees or contractors to the federal government.

That is unconstitutional because no where in the Constitution is the federal government explicitly or implicitly granted the power to make or secure the loans of people who are neither federal government employees or contractors to the federal government.

So, did you get an FHA home loan ican?

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@ican711nm,

ican711nm wrote:

No Parados, I am not saying ALL US citizens are the enemies of the US. I am saying that those US citizens, whose objective is the replacement of the US Constitutional Republic by a dictatorship, are enemies of the US Constitutional Republic.

So you are accusing US citizens of treason?

And then accusing people that associate with those US citizens of treason based on their association?

Maybe you need to read the constitution again ican. You seem to have missed some very important points in it.

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@parados,

All these people who challenge on what our government can do or can't do must have some hangup when it involves our constitution and what congress has done with the consent of the USSC.

These jokers don't understand anything about our government; their challenges are a joke and meaningless.

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@cicerone imposter,

steppin' on a dollar to pick up a dime.

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GW Bush might yet get his just desserts

http://edition.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/09/04/mann.george.w.bush/index.html

Republicans immediately criticized the new investigation and even some Democrats said it would be unpopular.

"This is not very good politically for the administration," said Democratic strategist James Carville. "The public clearly doesn't have much of an appetite for this."

But Attorney General Eric Holder said evidence of abuses was compelling enough to require it. No one knows what other evidence will ultimately compel the administration to do.

The American Civil Liberties Union, an activist organization that campaigns against prisoner abuse, says "any investigation that truly follows the facts where they lead would inevitably lead to prosecutions of high government officials,"

One Bush administration legal advisor, Jack Goldsmith, says his colleagues were acutely conscious that the president or his advisors could someday be investigated for the steps they took or approved after 9/11.

And remember that Bill Clinton was impeached for just lying about sex.

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@McTag,

Just proves that republicans are prone to show their hypocrisy no matter what the issue. They don't want any investigation into the Bush administration that approved torture, revealed the name of a CIA agent, lied about Iraq, and performed illegal wiretaps, but they impeached Clinton about sex.

Our government is broken.

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@parados,

Yes, parados, I am accusing THOSE CITIZENS of being traitors who are working on achieving their objective of replacing the Constitutional Republic of the USA by a dictatorship. I accuse Obama of being one of THOSE CITIZENS. I accuse THOSE CITIZENS of being traitors who are assisting Obama achieve his objective of replacing the Constitutional Republic of the USA by a dictatorship. .

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@ican711nm,

You didn't read the constitution, did you ican?

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@cicerone imposter,

cicerone imposter wrote:

All these people who challenge on what our government can do or can't do must have some hangup when it involves our constitution and what congress has done with the consent of the USSC.

Yes we do have a "hangup" as you call it, or a dedication as we call it. We call it a dedication to the rule of law.

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@parados,

Naw, he read it a hundred times, but can't interpret it correctly - like most everything else he reads.

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@ican711nm,

ican711nm wrote:

Yes we do have a "hangup" as you call it, or a dedication as we call it. We call it a dedication to the rule of law.

You mean like this law?

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Section 3. Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying war against them, or in adhering to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort. No person shall be convicted of treason unless on the testimony of two witnesses to the same overt act, or on confession in open court.

It seems you ignore the rule of law ican. The only dedication you have is to your political ideology.

1. You can provide no witness, let alone 2 to an overt act by any of those you accuse of treason.
2. You ignore the first amendment in claiming political activity is an act of treason.

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@parados,

parados wrote:

It seems you ignore the rule of law ican. The only dedication you have is to your political ideology.

1. You can provide no witness, let alone 2 to an overt act by any of those you accuse of treason.
2. You ignore the first amendment in claiming political activity is an act of treason.

You do not know what I am dedicated to.
You do not know what I can provide!
You do not know what I ignore!

I claim Obama has and continues to testifying against himself. The only witnesses to that needed is anyone in addition to me who has witnessed Obama testifying against himself.

Obama has advocated and continues to advocate federal action that violates the Constitution. Obama has signed into law and supervised or directed federal action that violates the Constitution. How do I know that? How do millions of US citizens know that? We all have heard him say that he has done these things.

Impeachment of Obama requires a majority of the House to accomplish that.

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http://www.archives.gov/exhibits/charters/constitution_transcript.html
Article I.
Section 2.
The House of Representatives shall choose their speaker and other officers; and shall have the sole power of impeachment.

Removal of Obama requires a two-thirds majority of those present in the Senate to accomplish that.[/quote]

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http://www.archives.gov/exhibits/charters/constitution_transcript.html
Article I.
Section 3.
The Senate shall have the sole power to try all impeachments. When sitting for that purpose, they shall be on oath or affirmation. When the President of the United States is tried, the Chief Justice shall preside: And no person shall be convicted without the concurrence of two thirds of the members present.
Judgment in cases of impeachment shall not extend further than to removal from office, and disqualification to hold and enjoy any office of honor, trust or profit under the United States: but the party convicted shall nevertheless be liable and subject to indictment, trial, judgment and punishment, according to law.

I am employing my 1st Amendement right to free speech.

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http://www.archives.gov/exhibits/charters/bill_of_rights_transcript.html
Amendment I
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.

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@ican711nm,

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I claim Obama has and continues to testifying against himself. The only witnesses to that needed is anyone in addition to me who has witnessed Obama testifying against himself.

Are you an "open court"? Is the other person and "open court"?

Seeing Obama testify against himself is NOT witnessing an "overt act" of treason. Not only doesn't it meet the standard for the constitution but your witnessing him say something would be "hearsay" and not admissible.

You really need to look up words and realize what the meaning is before you put your foot in your mouth ican.

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You do not know what I am dedicated to.

You are right.. You might be dedicated to stupidity instead of your political ideology.

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@parados,

Parados, I did not get an FHA loan buy my home.

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@parados,

The testimony of millions of citizens who are witnessing Obama testify against himself by his words and deeds, will prove to be sufficient for supplying more than enough evidence for the House to impeach him and the Senate to remove him.

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@ican711nm,

millions.... on what planet?

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@ican711nm,

Impeachment is NOT what we were talking about. You accused Obama of treason. I pointed out that you have not met the constitutional definition of treason. You attempt to insert a red herring when your lack of knowledge on the constitution is revealed.

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i knew this day was coming for the last twenty years, didn't the second world war teach you anything, don't **** with the russians

it's obvious that the KGB has been working behind the scenes to avenge america's destruction of the soviet union, and now their nefarious plans are coming to a head

they got their sleeper agent obama elected so he could destroy your pitiful republic from the inside

ha ha ha, the american republic is going down

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@DontTreadOnMe,

Already there are more than a million irate people against Obama who have attended Town Halls and Tea Parties. The Tea Party September 12 in DC will have a large turnout--not to mention the one's along the way and after!

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@ican711nm,

ican711nm wrote:

The Tea Party September 12 in DC will have a large turnout--not to mention the one's along the way and after!

not bigger than next years May 1st celebrations comrade

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