AMERICAN CONSERVATISM IN 2008 AND BEYOND

Read and Believe the fossil records!

The U.S. Post Service was established in 1775 - they've had 234 years to get
it right; it is broke, and looking to cut back services in the face of a projected $6 billion deficit this year.

Social Security was established in 1935 - they've had 74 years to get it right, but it will be running all red ink in the near future with no plan in sight to make it sustainable.

Fannie Mae was established in 1938 - they've had 71 years to get it right. Freddie Mac was established in 1970 - they've had 39 years to get it right. Together Fannie and Freddie have now led the entire world into the worst economic collapse in 80 years while the government rewarded them for that feat to the tune of about $86 billion dollars in bailout monies.

The War on Poverty was started in 1964 - they've had 45 years to get it right but mega trillions of dollars later the poor are still with us.

Medicare and Medicaid were established in 1965 - they've had 44 years to get
it right; they are both broke, and while our government presumes to mention them as models for all US health care, it notes that the rising cost of them is unsustainable.

AMTRAK was established in 1970 - they've had 39 years to get it right but have yet to show a profit and require large government subsidies every year to operate.

This year, a trillion dollars was committed in the massive political payoff called the Stimulus Bill of 2009. Most Americans believe it has not been effective and many believe it has made things worse. It has been used to increase the size and cost of governments across America , and raise government salaries while the rest of us suffer from economic hardships. It is difficult to find any private sector jobs generated. Our national debt projections (approaching $10 trillion) have increased 400% in the last six
months.

"Cash for Clunkers" was intended to span six months and was broke in the first 30 days requiring a tripling of infusion of money. 80% of the cars purchased turned out to be produced by foreign companies, and dealers nationwide are buried under bureaucratic paperwork demanded by a
government that is not yet paying them what was promised.

So with a perfect 100% failure rate and a record for shoving grandiose costly schemes down our throats by an over-reaching government, what possible rationale can be used that government control over the national healthcare system involving 17% of the total U.S. economy would produce any different results?

Maybe each of us has a personal responsibility to let others in on this
brilliant record before 2010, and then help remove from office those who are
voting to destroy capitalism and destroy our grandchildren's future.

Printed money are obligations of the federal government to accept as payment of federal taxes and fees, and to make payment for services, commodities, and products.

So you should have stated at least:
In other words, bonds or IOUs or PRINTED MONEY.

oh please....

and again with "the mainstream media"... what the hell do you think fox news is?

they have the same goal as every other media outlet; sell a lot of advertising and make a lot of money.

the Media Research Center? Brent Bozell ? unbiased? gimme a break.

it really saddens me to see someone like you, who i viewed as a confirmed, yet mildly conservative person fall in with complete lunatics like ican and glenn beck.

Your chain emails are a never-ending source of amusement for me, especially when they get stuff so wrong.

Cycloptichorn

The U.S. Post Service was established in 1775 - they've had 234 years to get

It's interesting to see the absurd lengths you're willing to go to justify your own preconceived notions. You can't find anything in the constitution that says "LOANS," so you conclude that the government can't make loans (except to its employees, which doesn't make any sense, but never mind). On the other hand, you interpret "securities" to include "paper money" when there's absolutely no textual support for that interpretation, and now you define "treason" to include "supporting the TARP bailout." Really, you're a credit to the Republican Party, Ican -- glad you're on their side.

I want to stop Obama's current violations, because I think that if not stopped quickly, the constitutional republic of the USA will be quickly replaced by a dictatorship.

What has happened to so many Americans that they are willing to shut down their brains and just accept what they are fed by their chosen leaders? How did so many Americans become so spineless that they no longer think for themselves, observe for themselves, or demand evidence before they believe?

And you wonder why the Obama administration might have a motive to assign attack dogs to go after Glenn Beck?

ican711nm wrote:

I want to stop Obama's current violations, because I think that if not stopped quickly, the constitutional republic of the USA will be quickly replaced by a dictatorship.

and not just any dictatorship . . . a RUTHLESS dictatorship. One where the president indoctrinates our children into the evils of liberalism and implants nazi, fascist, socialist, and communist symbols on buildings located in the Rockefeller Center.

....It saddens me that you would judge a person purely because they disagree with your own biased ideology and offer a point of view that you don't want to even look at, much less consider to see if it might be valid. Do you honestly think there should be no debate? ....

Foxfyre wrote:

....It saddens me that you would judge a person purely because they disagree with your own biased ideology and offer a point of view that you don't want to even look at, much less consider to see if it might be valid. Do you honestly think there should be no debate? ....

your hero in action;

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3OY0AtYDbDo&feature=related[/youtube]

but he's not a lunatic, right?

Fox News is as centrist as anybody in their news reporting and definitely do lean right in their news magazines which is a nice balance to MSNBC, CNN, ABC, CBS, NBC, and PBS who are more left than right in their news reporting and definitely lean left in their news magazines.

Do you object to having a source for an alternate perspective? Or do you go along with the trend that the government should control the message so that we will only be told what they want us to know or hear?

No Brent Bozell is not unbiased any more than the George Soros funded Media Matters is unbiased, but he is certainly more honest than they are.

Glenn Beck does not claim to be unbiased any more than Hannity or Limbaugh or any other conservatives claim to be unbiased or any more than I claim to be unbiased. Bias is necessary in order to hold an opinion about anything. Do you claim that you are unbiased?

It saddens me that you would judge a person purely because they disagree with your own biased ideology and offer a point of view that you don't want to even look at, much less consider to see if it might be valid. Do you honestly think there should be no debate? Are you like Freeduck and think you ought to be quiet and hope for the best and then complain and condemn after the fact rather than speak out to head off bad and/or destructive policy before it is enacted?

What has happened to so many Americans that they are willing to shut down their brains and just accept what they are fed by their chosen leaders? How did so many Americans become so spineless that they no longer think for themselves, observe for themselves, or demand evidence before they believe?