AMERICAN CONSERVATISM IN 2008 AND BEYOND

Those talking , listening, and non-screaming 35 to 55 year old people are visible on the videos I've seen, as well as from attending town hall and tea party meetings myself. Perhaps you watch videos from which such people are edited.

Should you care to provide videos that show otherwise, then post them. Alternatively, tune in Fox News videos of those meetings, or examine the photos of those meetings published in the WSJ.

I've seen that video several times, mostly posted by okie. But here's what I asked:

FreeDuck wrote:

Other than a single, out of context, and misinterpreted line from a speech (to civilian security forces -- police) what evidence do you and our good wacky congressman have that this will happen?

We can play "interpret the meaning" all we want to but what evidence do you have that he's planning some sort of Obama Revolutionary Guard?

What is that?

I have absolutely no idea what that symbol is. I don't recall anything like that from my younger days.

I have absolutely no idea what that symbol is. I don't recall anything like that from my younger days.

To date I only have perception and observation of behavior that gives me zero confidence that the U.S. Constitution or individual freedom and rights are a priority for this administration.

I have observed eloquent oratory that masks and obscures (at least to the most gullible) broken promise after broken promise or disingenuous rhetoric along with increased pressure to assume more control over commerce and industry, mass communications, and place more power in the Presidency itself.

That perception is somewhat reinforced, at least in part, by the article posted.

I am not even sure, as the American Thinker writer is, that Obama didn't in fact mean a national civilian police force under the direct authority of the President. He may have backed off that due to the immediate negative response to such an idea. Or, he may in fact have meant a large federalized volunteer force, but if he in fact meant that, he sure had a strange way of wording it don't you think?

Those of you who are totally enamored with our President of course want to believe he is indeed our messiah and God's gift to humanity.

That seems to be even more true of those of you who so loathe and despise our previous President. Such hatred tends to distort and muddle accuracy of one's perceptions.

For now, I think it wise that there remain at least some skeptics who are interested in not promoting or authorizing programs, policy, methods, etc. that won't easily be unwound or rolled back should they turn out to be something different than advertised.

Foxfyre wrote:

I have absolutely no idea what that symbol is. I don't recall anything like that from my younger days.

then you should look it up. especially before you go all panicville about obama's private army.

Now, tell me again why Obama would have said that we can no longer rely on the military to meet our security objectives?

Why we need a national civilian security force that is just as well funded and just as powerful?

Why would Rahm Emmanuel follow up Obama's comments with the suggestion that they would like for such a force to be mandatory for all persons from Age 18 to I think 25?

What does this sound like to you?

DontTreadOnMe wrote:

Foxfyre wrote:

I have absolutely no idea what that symbol is. I don't recall anything like that from my younger days.

then you should look it up. especially before you go all panicville about obama's private army.

I just did. The purpose of that initiative was to construct and stock fallout shelters and provide emergency rescue in event of nuclear attack which was perceived as a very real threat during that era. Not that much different from civilians who train with police and fire fighters in disaster drills now. I still vividly remember the 'duck and cover' drills in every school. In highschool I was also a member of the Junior Civil Air Patrol. Once a week I spent a couple of hours in the tower of the State Capital in Santa Fe armed with a pair of strong binoculars and a chart of various kinds of aircraft. My job was to immediately call in ANY aircraft, other than small private planes, spotted in the area. Los Alamos, a short distance away, was still a closed city requiring permit and search for anybody entering.

Now, tell me again why Obama would have said that we can no longer rely on the military to meet our security objectives? Why we need a national civilian security force that is just as well funded and just as powerful? Why would Rahm Emmanuel follow up Obama's comments with the suggestion that they would like for such a force to be mandatory for all persons from Age 18 to I think 25?

What does this sound like to you?

good grief... get a grip. are you guys faking, or have you really forgotten about this. and from our younger days to boot, so it shouldn't be that hard to understand.