AMERICAN CONSERVATISM IN 2008 AND BEYOND

Even a hobo who gets money to buy a hamburger at McDonalds pays taxes.

Even drug dealers and the illegal aliens pay taxes under The FairTax Plan...
It's a consumption tax that replaces the federal income tax.

Drug dealers and illegal aliens don't currently pay federal income tax, but they do consume goods and services...

What's the difference between my thesis about income tax?

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Drug dealers and illegal aliens don't currently pay federal income tax, but they do consume goods and services...

The FairTax Plan is a consumption tax that replaces the federal income tax.

And you really believe a consumption tax is paid by everybody?

Yes.

Under The FairTax Plan everybody that purchases goods and services will pay a tax that is included in the price.


Do you think Drug dealers and illegal aliens declare their income and pay federal income tax?

TKO, What does this even mean? Do you know what the FairTax is?

H2O, yes I do get it!

The Fair Tax plan includes an equal partial payback for everyone---from an unspecified government agancy, not the IRS, that somehow knows who is paying sales tax. Those who don't pay a total sales tax more than the payback amount, would end up paying zero tax--many would even end up with a net subsidy. Those who pay a total sales tax more than the payback amount are additionally discriminated against. Those whose total sales tax is a greater percentage of their total income than those whose total sales tax is a smaller percentage of their total income, are additionally discriminated against.

A flat--uniform--income tax is not only truly fair, it is what is required by our current Constitution (Article I Section 8): the same tax on each and every dollar of gross income. It requires each and every income earner to pay an equal percentage, fair share of their income. It requires all of us for whom the federal government secures our rights, to pay our equal percentage, fair share of the cost of securing our rights.

A flat--uniform--income tax is not fair and it does nothing to collect taxes from people that do not declare their income.
A flat--uniform--income tax is just more of the same, but with a different name.

Tell me how much a person who is unemployed pays in this fair tax? How about someone that works at McDonalds?

Perhaps the Drug dealer will declare either.

Who does the audit on this McMillionaire?

The IRS?
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I prefer a flat gross income tax to a flat gross sales tax.

However, I prefer either of these to the current tax system.

Exactly!

I'll agree with you on that point

I'll ask again: If the flat tax is an income tax, then how can you say that it also taxes purchases?

The reason the Fair Tax is regressive is that it takes such a higher percentage of income from the lowest wage earners.

A family making $20,000 is probably spending $20,000 for the basic necessities of life: Food, shelter, clothing, transporation, etc. If you have a 15% Fair Tax, this family will pay $3,000 or 15% of their income in federal taxes less whatever the prebate is.

A family making $100,000, however, will also be paying $3,000 on the first $20,000 expended but this is only 3% of their income and they receive the same prebate.

For persons receiving public assistance, it would be necessary to increase the amount of their welfare check to keep them at whatever the government considers the bare subsistance amount to live should be.

The Fair Tax will not do anything to reduce cheating as those determined to cheat can avoid the taxman by simply going to a barter system and a fairly high federal tax on all consumption would encourage a whole lot more bartering.

A flat income tax assesses exactly the same percentage of taxes paid by all people no matter how much they make or how they make it and ensures that all working Americans have a stake in the system.

Pros and cons both ways I know. But I bet if we all keep putting our collection of heads together, we'll arrive at the best solution.

Flat tax and Fair tax are 2 separate things. To which do you refer?

Seriously, have you read anything about the Fair tax?

I'm referring to this post where H2OMan said that the flat tax taxes income and purchases.