AMERICAN CONSERVATISM IN 2008 AND BEYOND

@H2O MAN,

Perhaps YOU should read it, Squirt...

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Based on similar methodology,
researchers have estimated that the costs to comply with a national sales tax would be as low as
1.0 percent of collections, compared with the flat tax at 1.2 percent of collections and a
consumed-income tax at 4.6 percent of collections.25

The FAIRTAX even states that there will be costs associated with compliance which is what I stated.

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@parados,

The FAIRTAX website is filled with inaccuracies and made up crap.
It claims it will abolish the IRS but at the same time admits there will be a compliance cost. Renaming the IRS and reducing it's size doesn't eliminate it. Any fool should realize that.

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@parados,

YOU have much to learn grasshopper.
This will be tough for YOU because your pea sized brain is filled with inaccuracies and made up crap.

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@H2O MAN,

So.. Squirt..
Tell us what would be different about an enforcement agency that collects taxes under the FAIRTAX compared to the IRS.

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@Foxfyre,

Foxfyre wrote:

The most telling statement in all of the mostly non-information press conference tonight was when President Obama was asked if he would be willing for himself and his family to receive healthcare under the plan he is proposing for the rest of us. He ducked the question.

Uh no, not really:

Q And what about yourself and Congress? Would you abide by the same benefits package?

THE PRESIDENT: You know, I would be happy to abide by the same benefit package. I will just be honest with you -- I'm the President of the United States so I've got a doctor following me every minute. (Laughter.) Which is why I say this is not about me. I've got the best health care in the world. I'm trying to make sure that everybody has good health care -- and they don't right now.

Source

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@H2O MAN,

H2O MAN wrote:

(2) Unlike the flat--uniform--income tax, The FairTax plan is 100% fair because everyone is taxed the same rate on purchases.

Why is a uniform tax on purchases more fair than a uniform tax on incomes?

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@joefromchicago,

Because it is MORE uniform.

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@joefromchicago,

joefromchicago wrote:

H2O MAN wrote:
(2) Unlike the flat--uniform--income tax, The FairTax plan is 100% fair because everyone is taxed the same rate on purchases.

Why is a uniform tax on purchases more fair than a uniform tax on incomes?

And while I'm honestly trying to give a Fair Tax a fair assessment, this is where I have trouble completely buying into the fair tax concept too. I think a fair tax would be far more regressive than a flat income tax--people who have to spend most of the income on basic necessities would be impacted more and would be paying a far higher percentage of their income in taxes with any kind of sales tax system as opposed to an income tax system.

Ten percent is ten percent no matter what amount of money it is applied to, and to me, a ten percent income tax on all income would be the fairest and most equitable way to assess taxes. I do think everybody from the poorest to the richest should pay it though, as I think it very unhealthy for a sizable percentage of the population to have no stake in the consequences of tax policy.

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@parados,

parados wrote:

Because it is MORE uniform.

Isn't that a bit like being "more pregnant?"

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@Foxfyre,

A 10% tax would leave the Federal government with huge deficits since the government spends from 19-22% of GDP historically since 1969.

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@parados,

If my memory serves, at one time, it was thought that a 17% rate would pay for all of the feds spending.

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@joefromchicago,

The flat tax taxes your income and your purchases.
The flat tax takes your money away from you before and after you get it.

With The FairTax Plan you are only taxed if and when you purchase something.

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@parados,

Obama knew this and instead of doing the right thing by reducing the size
and cost of government, the dolt triples the size and cost of government.

Obamanomics will kill this country.

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@cicerone imposter,

The change that you hoped for has come and Obama's spending has exceeded gargantuan proportions.

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@H2O MAN,

If the flat tax is an income tax, then how can you say that it also taxes purchases?

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@H2O MAN,

H2O Man wrote:

Neither are "flaws".

(1) Repealing the 16th amendment is factored into The FairTax plan.

(2) Unlike the flat--uniform--income tax, The FairTax plan is 100% fair because everyone is taxed the same rate on purchases.

Also, the flat tax does not do away with the IRS... The FairTax renders the IRS obsolete.

Not a flaw because "repealing the 16th amendment is factored into The FairTax plan."

Huh?

The Fair Tax is NOT 100% fair, because everyone is NOT taxed the equivalent of the same rate on their gross income.

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@ican711nm,

You don't get it!
I suggest that you read the book.

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@ican711nm,

Not repealing the 16th Amendment will lead Congress to establish BOTH an income tax and a sales tax. The current non-flat--non- uniform--income tax is unfair and illegal. Adding to it the unfair Fair Tax will lead to even less, not more, fair taxing.

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@ican711nm,

ican, CLUE: all forms of taxes are income taxes. Without income, one cannot pay any tax.

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@ican711nm,

I'll say it again... Read the Book!

Repealing the 16th is part of The FairTax Plan.
The current non-flat--non- uniform--income tax is REPLACED by The FairTax.
Nothing is added to the unfair non-flat--non- uniform--income tax because it would be history.

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