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AMERICAN CONSERVATISM IN 2008 AND BEYOND

 
 
blatham
 
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Reply Sat 27 Jun, 2009 10:06 am
Oh yeah, and as Alex Koppelman points out, David did have the husband of his lover murdered. He didn't resign after that either. Thus Sanford has a minimum of one murder he can commit without any necessity to resign his position. That's kind of cool. It gives him a certain savoir faire spiced with that sexually attractive sense of danger - an evangelical agent with licence to kill.
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Thomas
 
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Reply Sat 27 Jun, 2009 01:05 pm
@blatham,
blatham wrote:
Yes, lots of wonderful precedents now available for biblically approved relationships.

On this tempting tangent, I'd like to squeeze in an honorable mention for the gay style in which Old Testament dudes swore their oaths: As the oath-swearer says the words, he lays his right hand onto of the oath-taker's exposed penis. Sure beats swearing on a bible. Maybe, if the federal government revived these Biblical traditions, voters would regain their interest in C-Span's broadcasts of Congressional hearings. And after the hearing, Olberman and Scarborough could directly give their partisan spin on the length of their opponents penises, rather than beat around the bush by pretending to care about the general welfare.

The whole thing would be a psychoanalyst's dream!
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Sat 27 Jun, 2009 01:24 pm
@Thomas,
All with different interpretations of what they see! LOL
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blatham
 
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Reply Sat 27 Jun, 2009 03:40 pm
@Thomas,
thomas
Now, that I did not know. But as I may have mentioned here at some earlier point, the males in some primate species greet each other by tugging their penises (the other guy's). But as the bible was written by primates, this all fits together nicely.
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ehBeth
 
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Reply Sat 27 Jun, 2009 04:47 pm
@Thomas,
Thomas wrote:
he lays his right hand onto of the oath-taker's exposed penis


onto of what ?

alternatively

onto what of ?
Thomas
 
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Reply Sat 27 Jun, 2009 05:15 pm
@ehBeth,
U-oh. I need to have Roberta proof-read my posts before I hit "reply" in the future. But I can't. I commit so many mismatches between the number of subjects and the number of the verbs they refer to, it would give her a hearts attacks.
ehBeth
 
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Reply Sat 27 Jun, 2009 05:25 pm
@Thomas,
You won't answer?
You can't answer?
What if I have to uhhh never mind.
Thomas
 
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Reply Sat 27 Jun, 2009 06:19 pm
@ehBeth,
The first "of" shouldn't be in the sentence you quoted. But that doesn't matter. What matters is that I've aroused your interest in American politics.
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blatham
 
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Reply Sun 28 Jun, 2009 06:52 am
Here's Karl Rove on O'Reilly last evening discussing the attention the media and Dems have paid to the recent 'family values' Republican infidelities (humping someone other than your dutiful christian helpmeet) by Sanford, Ensign, Vitter, Craig, etc

Quote:
What we saw last night was the coarseness and ugliness in American politics, carried forward by people who claim not to be political actors, but commentators and observers. And they gave the lie to their so-called neutrality or objectiveness last night.


Project much? It goes without saying that individuals like Rove and O'Reilly, who have been seminal in creating and defining the modern conservative movement in many of its very worst manifestations, demonstrate so much of what is wrong with that movement. They are now completely unworthy of anyone's trust. Honesty or integrity sit far outside their personal universes.

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Foxfyre
 
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Reply Sun 28 Jun, 2009 01:29 pm
For those who want to see how the vote for the so-called "Clean Energy Act" that narrowly passed on Friday looked:

http://i456.photobucket.com/albums/qq289/LindaBee_2008/HR2454_CleanEnergyAct.jpg?

Of course the more onerous provisions of the act won't start kicking in until after the 2010 election and won't be fully felt at the local level until after the 2012 election. By then our fearless leaders figure they'll have enough distance between their vote and the voters' wrath.
Foxfyre
 
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Reply Sun 28 Jun, 2009 02:00 pm
Here's the Republicans who voted yes on HR 2454 Cap & Trade:

Michael Castle - Delaware
Mark Kirk - Illinois
Leonard Lance - New Jersey
Frank LoBiondo - New Jersey
John McHugh - New York
Mary Bono Mack - California
David Reichert - Washington
Christopher Smith - New Jersey

And John Sullivan of Oklahoma abstained.

As soon as I get a list, I'll also post the 44 responsible Democrats who voted no.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Sun 28 Jun, 2009 02:08 pm
@Foxfyre,
Foxfyre wrote:

... the so-called "Clean Energy Act" ...


It's actually the so-called "American Clean Energy and Security Act", isn't it?
Foxfyre
 
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Reply Sun 28 Jun, 2009 02:10 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
No its actually called The American Clean Energy and Security Act, not 'so-called'.
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Sun 28 Jun, 2009 02:32 pm
@Foxfyre,
Walter is right; it's "so-called" because what the plan is doesn't fulfill it's name. We don't even have a reliable time-frame for this so-called "plan."
H2O MAN
 
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Reply Sun 28 Jun, 2009 03:29 pm
@cicerone imposter,


Walter and cice girl are wrong.
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Sun 28 Jun, 2009 03:35 pm
@H2O MAN,
waterboy, Why must you go around pissing all over the place?
H2O MAN
 
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Reply Sun 28 Jun, 2009 04:22 pm
@cicerone imposter,


... It tends to wash away the feces you spread all over the place.
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ican711nm
 
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Reply Tue 30 Jun, 2009 11:17 am
I'm back and continue to be interested here in discussing why and how to return to America's Constitutional Republic!

I recommend you all read and study Liberty and Tyranny A Conservative Manifesto a book by Mark R. Levin. This Book was published in 2009.

I particularly recommend its last chapter: EPILOGUE, A Conservative Manifesto, page 193 - 205.
Yankee
 
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Reply Tue 30 Jun, 2009 11:28 am
@ican711nm,
Quote:
I'm back and continue to be interested here in discussing why and how to return to America's Constitutional Republic!


Probably as soon as the political parties in this Nation return to it's core responsibilities, representing the will of the citizens of the US, not special interest or foreign interests.
ican711nm
 
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Reply Tue 30 Jun, 2009 11:40 am
@Yankee,
LIBERTY AND TYRANNY
A CONSERVATIVE MANIFESTO

BY MARK R. LEVIN
PAGES 193 " 205

1. TAXATION
2. ENVIRONMENT
3. JUDGES
4. THE ADMINISTRATIVE STATE
5. GOVERNMENT EDUCATION
6. IMMIGRATION
7. ENTITLEMENTS
8. FOREIGN POLICY AND SECURITY
9. FAITH
10. THE CONSTITUTION
 

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