AMERICAN CONSERVATISM IN 2008 AND BEYOND

@Foxfyre,

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You're asking them to actually discuss the subject, Ican. That would require them to divert from making juvenile schoolyard insults about other members and then congratulating each other for doing it. You expect a lot I think.

As i have pointed out to you before in this thread, so long as you make statements of this kind, while passing over in silence the truly scurrilous things which your boy the Possum says, you show yourself up for a great prating, partisan hypocrite. And you make a mockery of any pretense to Christian virtue you may try to claim.

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@Setanta,

You mean Foxie is a christian?

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@joefromchicago,

I'll answer your question.

Those MACs who occasionally wander into ad hominem or occasionally launch a pesonally directed insult I forgive because I also have feet of clay and occasionally can be goaded into such behavior. Or, admittedly, sometimes somebody leaves an opening so wide you could march a battalion abreast through it, and those are really hard to resist.

I also forgive hardnosed conservatives and liberals for such for the same reasons as testified by the fact that I don't have YOU on ignore.

Those MACs or hardnosed conservatives or leftists who preface almost every post with an unkind or personally directed insult, who go out of their way to be unkind to other members, who sometimes follow a member around from thread to thread for no other reason than to make insulting posts about them.....those types.....get put on ignore by me regardless of their stated political party or ideology.

I do that so that I can enjoy participating on A2K and don't have to deal with snot nosed mean spirited types who apparently like to hurt people for fun. I resisted doing it for the longest time because he felt 'snobbish', but the ability to do it has greatly increased my enjoyment in being here.

Right now my ignore list is five people. From time to time I do check to see if somebody has cleaned up his/her act. If so I take them off ignore. Simple as that.

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5?! I just looked and I have 77. Though, to be fair, most of those are lovatt's people.

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@McGentrix,

Yeah well, I lobbied long and hard for ability to ignore a thread without voting it down, but I was not able to have my wish granted. Perhaps when I am diagnosed with a terminal illness or something, it will be granted as a dying request. Meanwile, I just vote down the threads I know I'll never want to post in, but I still hate doing that because many are perfectly good threads that don't deserve negative numbers.

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It is worth noting that Fox managed to completely avoid the burden of Joe's question.

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@McGentrix,

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So, enjoy your laughter while you're reading my posts.

I most certainly do, as do many who I share your idiocy with. Your name is getting to be pretty well-known on a few Liberal websites as a prime example of a Modern Conservative Moron. I guess I should call that a MCM in order to fit in with the thread?

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Someday, you'll realize that you don't need to be a rude prick to make a point and you don't need to brandish your cock about for people to like you

Heck, I know that stuff today!

I'm rude to you, because you deserve it. More so than almost anyone here. Not because I hope to gain anything out of it, or show anyone anything; what could I possibly gain from doing so? Nah. I just want you to know that people out here know what an asshole you are, and remember the things you have said on A2K in the past that you would rather have ignored.

I wonder if you guys just think that everyone has forgotten how big a cheerleader you all were for Bush and his gang of thieves. You supported every single thing they did and were extremely hateful towards anyone who did not; and you didn't catch on that this was dumb behavior until about 3 years after everyone else had. I certainly didn't forget.

I feel no compunction to hold back whatsoever when it comes to telling people on A2K exactly what I think or feel, and why should I? Because it would make idiots like you respect me? Why would I give a **** about that?

You may notice that there are plenty of Conservatives who I do have conversations with without insult - this is because they are better people than you are, McG. Categorically.

But, as this is the internet, and nothing changes, you go right on ahead being stunningly wrong and boringly unoriginal in said wrongness, and I'll continue to point it out with comic effect. Work for you?

Cycloptichorn

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@Foxfyre,

Foxfyre wrote:

I'll answer your question.

You didn't.

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@nimh,

Yes, I did. He didn't ask me who I had on ignore and that is information I prefer to keep to myself. I quite clearly explained my response to that I consider unacceptable behavior from our more immature members, however, I was explicit that their ideological leanings did not affect that in any way, and I think anybody who isn't ideologically or mentally challenged can figure it out without any additional help from me.

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@Foxfyre,

Answering Joe's question would have been to explain characters like H2Oman, genoves (+all aliases), cjhsa, OMSigDavid, and ican711nm.

Do MACs look for quantity or quality?

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@Diest TKO,

Diest TKO wrote:

Answering Joe's question would have been to explain characters like H2Oman, genoves (+all aliases), cjhsa, OMSigDavid, and ican711nm.

Do MACs look for quantity or quality?

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It has to be quantity now; I mean, c'mon. They aren't going to get back to prominence by shutting out everyone.

I mean, Fox and Okie agree with Genoves on a lot of issues - that's not someone you boot out.

Cycloptichorn

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@Foxfyre,

Foxie wrote:

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"...that I consider unacceptable behavior from our more immature members..."

ROFL

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The narrow- or close-minded right-wing extremists and the greed-mongers who gravitate to the modern conservative movement won't be satisfied until they have raped our planet to death, destroyed civilization, and caused the extinction of our species.

ABC is exploring the question of "Earth 2100: Is this the Final Century of Our Civilization."

http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/Earth2100

Why should the progressive majority pay any attention whatsoever to the "conservative" political agenda if doing so leads to our ultimate destruction? Maybe the narcissistic greed mongers only care about their own lavish existence and don't give a rat's ass about what they leave behind for future generations. Maybe the religious wing nuts want to bring about an apolcalypse, armeggedon, and the great rapture. But shouldn't the sane people on this planet try to preserve both our planet and our species? Will we reach a point of no return?

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@joefromchicago,

joefromchicago wrote:

I still think I'm right in my assessment. Of course if you'd be willing to explain your position in your own words ... then I'd be happy to reconsider.

OK!

I advocate a single uniform flat federal tax on gross income, such that each and every dollar of gross income is taxed at the same rate, without any exemptions, discounts, deductions, refunds, paybacks, corporate taxes, inhereitance taxes, or anyother taxes whatsoever.

I advocate that there be no other expenditures of federal income than those the Constitution authorizes the federal government to spend to provide for the common defense and the general welfare of the United States.

I am opposed to the federal government exercising powers not granted it by the Constitution. In particular I am opposed to the federal government taking property (e.g., dollars, businesses, land) from those that lawfully earned it and giving it to those who did not lawfully earn it.

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@Debra Law,

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Will we reach a point of no return?

Yes, no matter what political persuasion is in power.
I dont care how much you conserve, I dont care how much you change your behavior, eventually the earth will run out of resources.
Especially with the booming populations in the third world.

It might be tomorrow, it might be 100 years from now, it might be 1000 tears from now, but eventually it will happen.
And there is nothing anyone can do about it.

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@Foxfyre,

Foxfyre wrote:

I quite clearly explained my response to that I consider unacceptable behavior from our more immature members

A response like here?

cjhsa wrote:

Obama is a disgrace. His supporters are enemies of the United States. It's treason pure and simple.

Foxfyre wrote:

You need to join us over on the Conservatism thread CJ.

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@old europe,

old europe wrote:

Foxfyre wrote:
I quite clearly explained my response to that I consider unacceptable behavior from our more immature members

A response like here?

cjhsa wrote:
Obama is a disgrace. His supporters are enemies of the United States. It's treason pure and simple.

Foxfyre wrote:
You need to join us over on the Conservatism thread CJ.

It seems, unsurprisingly, that all of us are willing to put up with a little salty language and out-there opinions from those of a similar political bent to our own, and much less willing to do so for others.

Cycloptichorn

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@Setanta,

Setanta" wrote:

It is worth noting that Fox managed to completely avoid the burden of Joe's question.

Not true! Foxfyre did a good job in answering Joe's question.

joefromchigago wrote:

Now, to be sure, there are plenty of people on the left whom I find embarrassing. Fortunately, I think many of the left-wing anti-Semites and 9/11 "truthers" didn't make the transition to the new A2K, but there are others with whom I'd still prefer not to be associated. Is that the same with you "MACs," or is "modern American conservatism" such a big tent ideology that you'll take any harebrained crank that comes along, spouting the latest in an endless series of increasingly implausible theories as to why the constitution was really written by people apparently as deranged as they are, so long as they're sufficiently conservative?

Foxfyre wrote:

Those MACs who occasionally wander into ad hominem or occasionally launch a pesonally directed insult I forgive because I also have feet of clay and occasionally can be goaded into such behavior. Or, admittedly, sometimes somebody leaves an opening so wide you could march a battalion abreast through it, and those are really hard to resist.

I also forgive hardnosed conservatives and liberals for such for the same reasons as testified by the fact that I don't have YOU on ignore.

Those MACs or hardnosed conservatives or leftists who preface almost every post with an unkind or personally directed insult, who go out of their way to be unkind to other members, who sometimes follow a member around from thread to thread for no other reason than to make insulting posts about them.....those types.....get put on ignore by me regardless of their stated political party or ideology.

I do that so that I can enjoy participating on A2K and don't have to deal with snot nosed mean spirited types who apparently like to hurt people for fun. I resisted doing it for the longest time because he felt 'snobbish', but the ability to do it has greatly increased my enjoyment in being here.

Right now my ignore list is five people. From time to time I do check to see if somebody has cleaned up his/her act. If so I take them off ignore. Simple as that.

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@Foxfyre,

Foxfyre wrote:

Yes, I did.

Um, no you didn't.

Foxfyre wrote:

He didn't ask me who I had on ignore and that is information I prefer to keep to myself. I quite clearly explained my response to that I consider unacceptable behavior from our more immature members, however, I was explicit that their ideological leanings did not affect that in any way, and I think anybody who isn't ideologically or mentally challenged can figure it out without any additional help from me.

I really don't care who you have on ignore and who you don't. I asked if "modern American conservatism" is such a big tent ideology that you'll take any monomaniacal crackpot so long as they're sufficiently conservative.

Let me put it this way: there are plenty of people who hold ostensibly leftist political beliefs with whom, for one reason or another, I wouldn't want to associate -- folks like Zippo or S&C, the rabid anti-Semites and conspiracy kooks, those kinds of nutcases. Despite the fact that they might inhabit the same general area of the political spectrum as me, I would hold no truck with them. Indeed, I wish they could be successfully recruited by the other side. Now, is there anyone like that for "modern American conservatives," or are all conservatives -- even the nuttiest -- welcome under the big MAC tent?

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@old europe,

old europe wrote:

Foxfyre wrote:
I quite clearly explained my response to that I consider unacceptable behavior from our more immature members

A response like here?

cjhsa wrote:
Obama is a disgrace. His supporters are enemies of the United States. It's treason pure and simple.

Foxfyre wrote:
You need to join us over on the Conservatism thread CJ.

And you object to this how? I don't recall you ever correcting a member on your side when they made similar inflammatory statements, no matter how stupid or cruel, such as George Bush wrecked the country to George Bush is a war criminal or George Bush is a liar, or George Bush should be impeached etc. Did CJ atttack another member on A2K? No he did not. Did he say anything that he can't support with an argument? No he did not. But you didn't ask him to make an argument to support the statement did you? You simply denigrate CJ because he expressed an opinion no worse or more ugly than thousands of statements directed at elected or appointed leaders that you don't like. And you denigrate me because I didn't jump on CJ.

I once jumped on a member for calling Walter a Nazi. I was denigrated by one of your beloveds for doing so. I have requested that members arguing my side but doing so ad hominem would refrain from doing so. At least one of those who refused, albeit politely, was subsequently put on ignore because the repetitious ad hominem references were exceedingly annoying, and some quite unkind.

You don't find me denigrating others who make statements like CJ made though. I might ask them to support them--they almost never can.

When you can show me how you have jumped on your beloveds here who have attacked Ican or Okie or me or any Republican etc. etc. etc., then you might have the moral authority to criticize me for not doing so. Until then you might possibly be guilty of hypocrisy.

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