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AMERICAN CONSERVATISM IN 2008 AND BEYOND

 
 
Lightwizard
 
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Reply Tue 5 May, 2009 01:18 pm
@H2O MAN,
The Republicans would have to move out of those dark, dank caves, nursing their injuries from the attempted suicide of jumping off the Capitol dome.
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Debra Law
 
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Reply Tue 5 May, 2009 01:40 pm
@cicerone imposter,
cicerone imposter wrote:

It seems all that the conservatives know how to work is "fear." The only fear they've created is to the voters who see the conservative party as fear-mongers without any solutions.


You are not being generous enough. They know more than just how to work "fear." They also know how to work "hate" and "intolerance." When they're mongering their hate and intolerance all around the place, they inevitably forget the old adage: Those who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.

For instance, the conservative movement's current reigning beauty queen de jour claims it is acceptable for a Christian, due to her Christian upbringing, to oppress gays by denying to them the same right that she reserves for her morally superior Christian self. So what if she had her breasts augmented for the sake of vanity and increasing her odds to win a beauty contest? So what if she posed nude or semi-nude prior to the pageant without informing the officials of this disqualifying fact? People who say anything about her fake breasts or her act of falsifying her qualifications to be "Miss California" are intolerant and offensive!!!!!!

Miss California wrote:
I am a Christian, and I am a model. Models pose for pictures, including lingerie and swimwear photos. Recently, photos taken of me as a teenager have been released surreptitiously to a tabloid Web site that openly mocks me for my Christian faith. I am not perfect, and I will never claim to be. But these attacks on me and others who speak in defense of traditional marriage are intolerant and offensive.


Which reminds me, conservatives also know how to work "victimhood."


cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Tue 5 May, 2009 01:57 pm
@Debra Law,
Even Foxie plays that card often.
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H2O MAN
 
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Reply Tue 5 May, 2009 02:20 pm



It's simple economics... the democrats bought more votes than the republicans.

Fear not because it won't happen again for many, many decades.
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Tue 5 May, 2009 02:24 pm
@H2O MAN,
That's correct; it's no longer a matter of money. The conservative party has self-destructed, and future elections will be by voters choice without the money. http://theplumline.whorunsgov.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/shrinkinggop-300x125.jpg
ican711nm
 
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Reply Tue 5 May, 2009 02:46 pm
Obama is behaving like a fascist as well as a violator of the Constitution of the USA.
Quote:

http://unabridged.merriam-webster.com/cgi-bin/unabridged?va=fascism&x=24&y=7
Main Entry: fas·cism Pronunciation Guide
Pronunciation: fa]shizm, faa], fai] also ]si- sometimes fä] or f]
Function: noun
Inflected Form(s): -s
Etymology: Italian fascismo, from fascio bundle, political group + -ismo -ism
1 often capitalized : the principles of the Fascisti; also : the movement or governmental regime embodying their principles
2 a : any program for setting up a centralized autocratic national regime with severely nationalistic policies, exercising regimentation of industry, commerce, and finance, rigid censorship, and forcible suppression of opposition b : any tendency toward or actual exercise of severe autocratic or dictatorial control (as over others within an organization) <the nascent fascism of a detective who is not content merely to do his duty -- George Nobbe> <early instances of army fascism and brutality -- J.W.Aldridge> <a kind of personal fascism, a dictatorship of the ego over the more generous elements of the soul -- Edmond Taylor>

Face it, recognize it, and deal with it, else you will become a victim of it.
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Tue 5 May, 2009 03:01 pm
@ican711nm,
ican, You're the one who has to "deal with it," because you seem to be the lone ranger who continues to post ridiculous opinions about Obama's violation of our Constitution.

Where did you study law? Specifically, Constitutional Law?
Lightwizard
 
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Reply Tue 5 May, 2009 03:12 pm
John Stewart on Judge Souter stepping down and empathy:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/05/05/justice-is-bland-daily-sh_n_196630.html
ican711nm
 
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Reply Tue 5 May, 2009 03:39 pm
@cicerone imposter,
I studied the Constitution of the USA in Washington, D.C.. I studied the Constitution in Massachusetts. Istudied the Constitution in New York. I studied the Constitution in Texas.

Where, cicerone imposter, did you study the Constitution of the USA?

Your ridiculous opinions about my allegations that Obama's is violating the Constitution, are baseless. Obama's violations of the Constitution of the USA are obviously increasing in frequency and damage to our Constitutional Republic. Wake up and deal with that reality rather than denying it.
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Tue 5 May, 2009 03:43 pm
@ican711nm,
In high school; also studied business law in college. Evidently, your studies failed you miserably, because your interpretation of our Constitution doesn't reflect how "everybody else" interprets them. Don't you even find that strange? We're talking about everybody in Washington DC and congress who are/were practicing attorneys, all the elite law schools in the US, and practicing attorneys who present cases to the supreme court.

Strange.
Debra Law
 
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Reply Tue 5 May, 2009 04:09 pm
@Lightwizard,
Lightwizard wrote:

John Stewart on Judge Souter stepping down and empathy:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/05/05/justice-is-bland-daily-sh_n_196630.html


Stewart summed up the right-wing wackos who seized on the word "empathy" to conjure up hysterical brouhaha. And speaking of wackos, we should revisit Sowell's Empathy vs. Law commentary:

Thomas Sowell wrote:
Justice David Souter's retirement from the Supreme Court presents President Barack Obama with his first opportunity to appoint someone to the High Court. People who are speculating about whether the next nominee will be a woman, a Hispanic or whatever, are missing the point.


I don't think Sowell is being honest when he claims the "point" we are missing centers around the word "empathy" as a code word for all the evils feared by conservatives. Seriously, the narrow-minded pompous jackass doesn't want a woman on the Supreme Court because it's a woman's role in life to trail behind men and forego career opportunities because they have babies. (And, of course, they MUST have babies because conservatives won't allow women to have ownership of their own uteruses.)

Thomas Sowell wrote:
The most blatant fact about male-female differences is often ignored by those on the hunt for discrimination: Women have babies.


Source: THE GRAND FALLACY by Thomas Sowell.

(It is absurdly ironic that Sowell would write an article about an alleged fallacy when his articles are laden with fallacies. After all, "Sowell" is the code name for "the grand facilitator of fallacies.")



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H2O MAN
 
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Reply Tue 5 May, 2009 04:16 pm
@cicerone imposter,


No dumb ass, it's all about the money paid to ACORN and other factions of liberal extremist.
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Tue 5 May, 2009 04:21 pm
@H2O MAN,
What laws did ACORN break? Please list all of them.
H2O MAN
 
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Reply Tue 5 May, 2009 04:25 pm
@cicerone imposter,
Who said anything about ACORN breaking laws?

cice, I think you are hallucinating again... is it Meth once again?
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Tue 5 May, 2009 04:39 pm
@H2O MAN,
You wrote:
Quote:
No dumb ass, it's all about the money paid to ACORN and other factions of liberal extremist.


So, what you're saying is you're a dumb ass. No laws broken, no issue except what you "dream up." Wow, that's really relevant just like you!
H2O MAN
 
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Reply Tue 5 May, 2009 04:43 pm
@cicerone imposter,


Cice, you are the dumb ass douche bag... deal with it like everyone else does.
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ican711nm
 
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Reply Tue 5 May, 2009 04:45 pm
@cicerone imposter,
My interpretation of the Constitution correlates very well with how Madison, Hamilton, and Jefferson interpreted it.

Whose interpretations of the Constitution does your interpretation correlate with?

How current politicians interpret it is not unanimous. Consider how 4 out of 9 Supreme Court justices interpret it. In particular, the idea that the Constitution is a "living document" is not a unanimous interpretation. Many are opposed to the idea that the Constitution is a document changeable by the whims of judges violating their oaths to support the Constitution. Such people are many and are opposed to the "supreme law of the land" being changed any other way than according its Article V.
DontTreadOnMe
 
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Reply Tue 5 May, 2009 05:33 pm
@Debra Law,
Debra Law wrote:

Which reminds me, conservatives also know how to work "victimhood."


work it? hell, they've perfected it over the last couple of years along with their born again buddies.

i agree with you re: miss whatsername. she, and her fellow born again types believe that it's a-ok to run around telling everybody else just how it's gonna be. to the extent that if you aren't down with their "faith", they are quite happy to tell you that "you will burn in hell".

tell 'em, "ehh, put a cork in it with that jazz" and what you get back is "you..you.. you're attacking people of faith!!" it's kinda nuts.

a report about the possibility of right-wing extremists committing violent acts of domestic terrorism is issued. and immediately the far right goes absolutely haywire. "obama and his socialists are targeting conservatives and christians for unfair scrutiny!". "why aren't they talking about tree hugger violence? why?why?why?".

also nuts.

1) the report on left wing dom-ter had already been issued. not to mention that it seems pretty likely that the left wing whackadoos that burn up lots full of new hummers and drive big ass spikes into trees, or even march into town with their bullshit contra-rags over their faces have been under "scrutiny" for decades.

2) if people like jay sekulow are up on the roof screeching about the anti-abortion movement being under "scrutiny", it could possibly be due to a guilty conscience. if people like the militia happy crowd are worried about being under "scrutiny", it could possibly be because of a guilty conscience.

3) on the other hand, it's also possible that the reason they are so upset is because both the anti-abortion crowd and their militia pals have already shown that they are more than willing to kill other americans for their "faith" and their "beliefs". and if the government is starting to pay attention again, it might put the kabosch on any violent activities they might care to indulge in.

now, i fully expect to get the "you liberals" nonsense barked back at me. and when i respond in kind, i also expect to hear all about how i made an ad hominem attack.

nothing could make me happier than for the far right and the far left to take a frakkin' powder and leave the rest of us in peace for a while.
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Tue 5 May, 2009 05:34 pm
@ican711nm,
"Correlates?" ROFLMAO They're all dead. You must convince someone that's amongst the living. You probably didn't know that!
DontTreadOnMe
 
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Reply Tue 5 May, 2009 05:36 pm
@H2O MAN,
H2O MAN wrote:



No dumb ass, it's all about the money paid to ACORN and other factions of liberal extremist.


again with the acorn stuff ? jesus.
 

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