AMERICAN CONSERVATISM IN 2008 AND BEYOND

@cicerone imposter,

cice, how's your therapy going?

Are you still afraid of sliced pickles?

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@H2O MAN,

waterman, Your strawman and ad hominems are not only stupid, but worthless like you.

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@cicerone imposter,

cicerone imposter wrote:

Who do you think has the responsibility now to make sure that Americans are fed and housed?

cice, I hope you don't think the responsibility is any but the individuals...

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@H2O MAN,

Ignorance has no bounds.

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@cicerone imposter,

cice, you are projecting again... no cookie for you.

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@cicerone imposter,

Still projecting...

ceci, I believe you have projectile oral diarrhea... you are a mess.

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Our Canadian friends have put together this little piece that gives credit where credit is due and places blame where blame should be placed. President Bush was a huge disappointment to many of us MACs on several fronts, but he did get some things right and deserves recognition for that.

One MACean principle is that you first understand and honestly admit how the problem occurred and then adopt policy or laws that are most likely to repair the damage and prevent further occurrences. Partisanship should not be a factor in that, and the Left/Democrats should be equally concerned as they are now in control of everything and can't blame the Republicans for anything that they now choose to do or fail to do. President Bush never had a filibuster proof Senate. President Obama now does. It is an awesome responsibility.

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@Foxfyre,

1) What is Barney Frank still doing in congress? (If he is indeed responsible for "talking BS.") Since when does the GOP listen to liberals?
2) Why couldn't Bush in his first term get the GOP majority in congress to act?

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@Woiyo9,

Woiyo9 wrote:

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The only ones who voted "no" to confirming Sebelius were Republicans. This demonstrates that right wing/conservative Republicans choose to be obstructionists--the party of "no." The roll call list is available at the link provided.

So anyone with an opposing point of view is an obstructionist? You want every vote to be 100-0? As a citizen you want no dissenting opinions? And you think of yourself as a "lawyer"?

You're a joke!!!

Roe v. Wade recognized that women have rights secured by the Constitution. That has been the law of the land for nearly 40 years. Opposing an appointee to a government office because she doesn't reject the law of the land and because she supports individual rights secured by the Constitution is stupid, plain and simple. Being anti-women's rights or anti-Roe v. Wade is not a mandatory qualification for government office. Sebelius is qualified for the job and that's all that matters.

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@Foxfyre,

Yep, the liberal left owns 100% of the MACx2 problem.

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@Foxfyre,

Foxfyre wrote:

One MACean principle is that you first understand and honestly admit how the problem occurred and then adopt policy or laws that are most likely to repair the damage and prevent further occurrences. Partisanship should not be a factor in that

Cool. In the interest of full understanding of the problem and honesty of how the problem occurred, here's another video clip.

I would have posted just Dorgan's statements, but after that Fox News clip, I thought it would be equally valid to instead post a video clip of Rachel Maddow interviewing Dorgan:

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For those interested, new NBC/WSJ polling (reflecting another recent poll) has folks self-identifying as Republican at 20%...
http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/i/MSNBC/Sections/NEWS/4_090428_NBC-WSJ_Full.pdf

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@Foxfyre,

If you trust the Heritage numbers than it should be obvious to you that ican is wrong and I am right.

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@Debra Law,

I was talking ABOUT YOU!!!!!!

AMAZING how dumb you are. Maybe in your next life, if you study real hard, maybe you can be somebody, maybe even an attorney.

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MACx2 -- representing the only two real self-described MAC's in the USA.

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@Foxfyre,

Your "MACean" principles concerning laissez-faire is the cause of our current financial crisis. You people think less regulation means more wealth; what we've seen is more wealth accumulate at the top while the middle class and poor lost ground to inflation. Now, the MACean princple is "don't increase taxes for the wealthy," because it's a transfer of wealth from the rich to the poor. Never mind that the wealthy are the ones who got us into this pickle (wall street), and all the increase in debt by GWBush is transferred to our children and grandchildren (main street).

The conservatives now cry bloody murder about the increase in the national debt that essentially is to fund benefits for the hundreds of thousands of the unemployed ranks caused by this financial crisis. The conservatives should ask all conservatives receiving current benefits because they lost their jobs should return that money to the federal government, because it's transferring debt to our children and grandchildren.

The Great Irony of the MACean principle.

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@Woiyo9,

And if you study hard, you might become a human being with a little brain.

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@Lightwizard,

Freddie and Fannie

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@cicerone imposter,

cice is a little pest with no brain.

Scientist are currently studying the pest known as cice to see if it is worth saving...

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@old europe,

old europe wrote:

Foxfyre wrote:
One MACean principle is that you first understand and honestly admit how the problem occurred and then adopt policy or laws that are most likely to repair the damage and prevent further occurrences. Partisanship should not be a factor in that

Cool. In the interest of full understanding of the problem and honesty of how the problem occurred, here's another video clip.

I would have posted just Dorgan's statements, but after that Fox News clip, I thought it would be equally valid to instead post a video clip of Rachel Maddow interviewing Dorgan:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q_hbezbsJ8s

Dorgan is right. The unacceptable risk to the nation and the great devastation that would flow from deregulation was entirely foreseeable--and inevitable. It is true that the right winger extremists/conservatives abandoned all common sense (or simply didn't care) in their GREEDY (disguised as ideological) pursuit of laissez faire (risky, buyer beware) capitalism. They surely KNEW, after they stuffed billions in the pockets and used their power and money to place their political candidates in office, that the taxpayer ultimately would be on the hook for the messes they created (and bailing them out). Thus, even though the country would suffer--the greed mongers themselves had nothing to fear.

For Foxfyre to claim that it is a conservative ideological principles to learn from past mistakes, one has to wonder how many times they will insist on crashing our nation over a rocky cliff before they decide not to do it anymore. The billions and billions they stuffed in their pockets should tide them over many years to come. Aren't they just biding their time until they can regain political power in order to do it all over again?

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